Mom Confessions

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:10 am

Mommamia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:03 am

29again wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:33 pm

Do you bitch and moan this much about the primary process, when most candidates don't even get a chance to get on the ballot in half the states? How is THAT fair?

Your analogy is not even close. Nobody gives one candidate more votes than they earn. It's not like one side gets more votes because they are black/female/a minority/etc. Each STATE has its number of electors. They vote according to how the majority of their state voted. It's not a secret.

I think that Trump has way more support than the dems realize, so the election will not as close as you think.

It's appalling how many people, especially the dems, don't have a clue why we have the Electoral College.

v

They don't seem to understand that We The People do not actually elect a President. We vote for Electors who vote for President, according to the wishes of the people who voted for them. But the Elector has the vote, NOT US!

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:10 am

Mommamia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:03 am

29again wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:33 pm

Do you bitch and moan this much about the primary process, when most candidates don't even get a chance to get on the ballot in half the states? How is THAT fair?

Your analogy is not even close. Nobody gives one candidate more votes than they earn. It's not like one side gets more votes because they are black/female/a minority/etc. Each STATE has its number of electors. They vote according to how the majority of their state voted. It's not a secret.

I think that Trump has way more support than the dems realize, so the election will not as close as you think.

It's appalling how many people, especially the dems, don't have a clue why we have the Electoral College.

v

They don't seem to understand that We The People do not actually elect a President. We vote for Electors who vote for President, according to the wishes of the people who voted for them. But the Elector has the vote, NOT US!

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:08 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:10 am

Mommamia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:03 am

It's appalling how many people, especially the dems, don't have a clue why we have the Electoral College.

v

They don't seem to understand that We The People do not actually elect a President. We vote for Electors who vote for President, according to the wishes of the people who voted for them. But the Elector has the vote, NOT US!

Everyone understands that. Who is this they? We’ve evolved since then. We can join the rest if the world where each vote counts equally. We don’t need electors as if we are little children. We all decide where we live in this country and don’t need to give a lift to states where people do not choose to live in.

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:12 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:08 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:10 am v

They don't seem to understand that We The People do not actually elect a President. We vote for Electors who vote for President, according to the wishes of the people who voted for them. But the Elector has the vote, NOT US!

Everyone understands that. Who is this they? We’ve evolved since then. We can join the rest if the world where each vote counts equally. We don’t need electors as if we are little children. We all decide where we live in this country and don’t need to give a lift to states where people do not choose to live in.

And see, it's precisely because we have 50 states that we just cannot operate the way a country the size of ONE of our states does. I know those who live in CA and NY think they are the only citizens who matter. However the citizens of SD and WY and MN would argue with that. It is not "giving a lift" to anyone. It's letting the small states have a voice same as the big states. I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand, maybe get out of your F***ing bubble once in a while and see how the rest of America lives.

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:12 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:08 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:10 am v

They don't seem to understand that We The People do not actually elect a President. We vote for Electors who vote for President, according to the wishes of the people who voted for them. But the Elector has the vote, NOT US!

Everyone understands that. Who is this they? We’ve evolved since then. We can join the rest if the world where each vote counts equally. We don’t need electors as if we are little children. We all decide where we live in this country and don’t need to give a lift to states where people do not choose to live in.

And see, it's precisely because we have 50 states that we just cannot operate the way a country the size of ONE of our states does. I know those who live in CA and NY think they are the only citizens who matter. However the citizens of SD and WY and MN would argue with that. It is not "giving a lift" to anyone. It's letting the small states have a voice same as the big states. I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand, maybe get out of your F***ing bubble once in a while and see how the rest of America lives.

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:11 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:12 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:08 pm

Everyone understands that. Who is this they? We’ve evolved since then. We can join the rest if the world where each vote counts equally. We don’t need electors as if we are little children. We all decide where we live in this country and don’t need to give a lift to states where people do not choose to live in.

And see, it's precisely because we have 50 states that we just cannot operate the way a country the size of ONE of our states does. I know those who live in CA and NY think they are the only citizens who matter. However the citizens of SD and WY and MN would argue with that. It is not "giving a lift" to anyone. It's letting the small states have a voice same as the big states. I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand, maybe get out of your F***ing bubble once in a while and see how the rest of America lives.

No need to swear to get out of my “F***ing bubble”. I understand as well as you do. Just don’t agree. We all live in the US. Why should someone who chooses to live in a rural state need to get their vote counted more?

Small states elect representatives to exclusively represent their rural states with two senators and a number of congressman. Wyoming with their 500,000+ population gets two votes in the senate. California with 40,000,000 population also only gets two votes. Some of the smaller States are complaining about not having enough congressmen even though they have tiny populations.

How often do you travel around the country?

Mommamia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:32 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:12 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:08 pm

Everyone understands that. Who is this they? We’ve evolved since then. We can join the rest if the world where each vote counts equally. We don’t need electors as if we are little children. We all decide where we live in this country and don’t need to give a lift to states where people do not choose to live in.

And see, it's precisely because we have 50 states that we just cannot operate the way a country the size of ONE of our states does. I know those who live in CA and NY think they are the only citizens who matter. However the citizens of SD and WY and MN would argue with that. It is not "giving a lift" to anyone. It's letting the small states have a voice same as the big states. I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand, maybe get out of your F***ing bubble once in a while and see how the rest of America lives.

Excellent response.

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:51 pm

Mommamia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:32 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:12 pm

And see, it's precisely because we have 50 states that we just cannot operate the way a country the size of ONE of our states does. I know those who live in CA and NY think they are the only citizens who matter. However the citizens of SD and WY and MN would argue with that. It is not "giving a lift" to anyone. It's letting the small states have a voice same as the big states. I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand, maybe get out of your F***ing bubble once in a while and see how the rest of America lives.

Excellent response.

Thank you. It really isn't that hard to understand.

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:50 pm

Lemons wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:11 pm

29again wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:12 pm

And see, it's precisely because we have 50 states that we just cannot operate the way a country the size of ONE of our states does. I know those who live in CA and NY think they are the only citizens who matter. However the citizens of SD and WY and MN would argue with that. It is not "giving a lift" to anyone. It's letting the small states have a voice same as the big states. I'm sorry that is so hard for you to understand, maybe get out of your F***ing bubble once in a while and see how the rest of America lives.

No need to swear to get out of my “F***ing bubble”. I understand as well as you do. Just don’t agree. We all live in the US. Why should someone who chooses to live in a rural state need to get their vote counted more?

Small states elect representatives to exclusively represent their rural states with two senators and a number of congressman. Wyoming with their 500,000+ population gets two votes in the senate. California with 40,000,000 population also only gets two votes. Some of the smaller States are complaining about not having enough congressmen even though they have tiny populations.

How often do you travel around the country?

Every state gets 2 senators. Every state has a different number of representatives based on the states population. So, the more populated a state is, the more votes it has. California will always have more votes than Wyoming simply because more people live in Cali. California, as a STATE, has more votes than all the other states. But there is no reason why states like WY or RI should have NO votes, which is basically what you are advocating for by eliminating the EC. It's like you think only the people in certain states should have a voice in electing the President, and there are a lot of people who think otherwise.

I can't quite figure why I need to explain how elections work to you....
And apparently the way primaries work is no problem for you, but the presidential election with the EC is a huge issue. I honestly don't get that. I think the primaries are way more FUBAR'ed than the presidential election is.