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EarlGrayHot wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:05 am No, I haven't had one. In fact, no one close to me has had one. It's actually not that common. But if I'd had one it would be my business and no one else's.
Out of your family & friends you really don't know who have or haven't had an abortion, like you said "If you had one, it would be your business and no one else's" a lot of women feel the same way
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Are you in Ireland?
Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:07 am ABORTION AND ECTOPIC PREGNANCY
You can still have a healthy pregnancy after having had an ectopic pregnancy, although your chances of conception are slightly reduced.

Ectopic pregnancy is not an issue in the abortion debate. The removal of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and has never been considered as such either under the terms of the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act or the 1983 Eight Amendment to the Irish Constitution. Since the first description of the surgical management of ectopic pregnancy by Lawson Tait in 1884 there has never been even a suggestion that a doctor who removes an ectopic pregnancy should be prosecuted.

There has not been a single death from an ectopic pregnancy in Ireland over the last 20 years, where abortion is illegal.

In Britain, however, where abortion is legal, 4 - 6 women die from ectopic pregnancies each year.



Anonymous 12 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:01 am It is still an abortion. So you already had an abortion and you are saying you would never have one?

Lol that is hilarious.
Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:57 am Actually I did, in 2008. I had a coworker who crassly accused me of terminating a viable uterine pregnancy because she like me is pro life. However one can’t terminate a tubal pregnancy with a d&c or suction abortion. No, instead your options are getting an I termuscular shot of methotrexate that looks like Mountain Dew If caught before tubal rupture OR having the tube removed if the pregnancy progresses.

So don’t be an ignorant ass hiding behind anonymous status when you compare a non viable pregnancy to an abortion.

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Here is the US stance:

As doctors have already declared, an abortion is never medically necessary to save the life of the mother. Now again, we are talking about direct abortion. At times, a mother may need an emergency C-section. Doctors will try to save the child, too, but sometimes the child is not developed enough to survive outside of the womb—that is the difference from a direct abortion. Abortions not only kill children, but do so through brutal means. The emergency treatment, however, was done not to kill the child, but to save the mother. The loss of life, which does occur, is both unintended and tragic. We try to save the child, though sometimes we cannot.

An ectopic pregnancy is one such specific instance where the treatment inevitably and tragically causes the death of the preborn child. But again, death is not the purpose.





Anonymous 7 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:36 am Are you in Ireland?
Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:07 am ABORTION AND ECTOPIC PREGNANCY
You can still have a healthy pregnancy after having had an ectopic pregnancy, although your chances of conception are slightly reduced.

Ectopic pregnancy is not an issue in the abortion debate. The removal of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and has never been considered as such either under the terms of the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act or the 1983 Eight Amendment to the Irish Constitution. Since the first description of the surgical management of ectopic pregnancy by Lawson Tait in 1884 there has never been even a suggestion that a doctor who removes an ectopic pregnancy should be prosecuted.

There has not been a single death from an ectopic pregnancy in Ireland over the last 20 years, where abortion is illegal.

In Britain, however, where abortion is legal, 4 - 6 women die from ectopic pregnancies each year.



Anonymous 12 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:01 am It is still an abortion. So you already had an abortion and you are saying you would never have one?

Lol that is hilarious.

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Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:42 am Here is the US stance:

As doctors have already declared, an abortion is never medically necessary to save the life of the mother. Now again, we are talking about direct abortion. At times, a mother may need an emergency C-section. Doctors will try to save the child, too, but sometimes the child is not developed enough to survive outside of the womb—that is the difference from a direct abortion. Abortions not only kill children, but do so through brutal means. The emergency treatment, however, was done not to kill the child, but to save the mother. The loss of life, which does occur, is both unintended and tragic. We try to save the child, though sometimes we cannot.

An ectopic pregnancy is one such specific instance where the treatment inevitably and tragically causes the death of the preborn child. But again, death is not the purpose.





Anonymous 7 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:36 am Are you in Ireland?
Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:07 am ABORTION AND ECTOPIC PREGNANCY
You can still have a healthy pregnancy after having had an ectopic pregnancy, although your chances of conception are slightly reduced.

Ectopic pregnancy is not an issue in the abortion debate. The removal of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and has never been considered as such either under the terms of the 1861 Offences Against the Person Act or the 1983 Eight Amendment to the Irish Constitution. Since the first description of the surgical management of ectopic pregnancy by Lawson Tait in 1884 there has never been even a suggestion that a doctor who removes an ectopic pregnancy should be prosecuted.

There has not been a single death from an ectopic pregnancy in Ireland over the last 20 years, where abortion is illegal.

In Britain, however, where abortion is legal, 4 - 6 women die from ectopic pregnancies each year.




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I did have a D&C but my baby was already dead. Its pretty much the exact same procedure though.
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Again, read the articles posted. Tubal treatment is just that. Abortion is the goal of a chosen termination. I’m
Not going to argue semantics.

I will say this again —Inwould for NO READON terminate a ViABLE UTERINE pregnancy. Zero reason would cause me to. If you can’t grasp that then I can’t educate you further. The prolife vs prochoice debate is just that, a debate. I know my choice and stand with it 100%
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Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:42 am Here is the US stance:

As doctors have already declared, an abortion is never medically necessary to save the life of the mother. Now again, we are talking about direct abortion. At times, a mother may need an emergency C-section. Doctors will try to save the child, too, but sometimes the child is not developed enough to survive outside of the womb—that is the difference from a direct abortion. Abortions not only kill children, but do so through brutal means. The emergency treatment, however, was done not to kill the child, but to save the mother. The loss of life, which does occur, is both unintended and tragic. We try to save the child, though sometimes we cannot.

An ectopic pregnancy is one such specific instance where the treatment inevitably and tragically causes the death of the preborn child. But again, death is not the purpose.





Anonymous 7 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:36 am Are you in Ireland?

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Yes when I was 17.
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No I have not. If any women I know personally have had one, then they don't talk about it. Meaning I don't know of anyone irl who has had one.

I'm not against them in general. If a woman feels she needs one she should get one. I've just never had an occasion to consider one.
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I read the articles. You’re simply wrong. You had an abortion.

Please cite those articles.
Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:00 am Again, read the articles posted. Tubal treatment is just that. Abortion is the goal of a chosen termination. I’m
Not going to argue semantics.

I will say this again —Inwould for NO READON terminate a ViABLE UTERINE pregnancy. Zero reason would cause me to. If you can’t grasp that then I can’t educate you further. The prolife vs prochoice debate is just that, a debate. I know my choice and stand with it 100%
Anonymous 7 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:51 am 430A324F-05FC-468F-9FB2-BF440C9C1BC7.jpeg
Msprekteacher wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:42 am Here is the US stance:

As doctors have already declared, an abortion is never medically necessary to save the life of the mother. Now again, we are talking about direct abortion. At times, a mother may need an emergency C-section. Doctors will try to save the child, too, but sometimes the child is not developed enough to survive outside of the womb—that is the difference from a direct abortion. Abortions not only kill children, but do so through brutal means. The emergency treatment, however, was done not to kill the child, but to save the mother. The loss of life, which does occur, is both unintended and tragic. We try to save the child, though sometimes we cannot.

An ectopic pregnancy is one such specific instance where the treatment inevitably and tragically causes the death of the preborn child. But again, death is not the purpose.






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