Warren reveals DNA results

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Mother_of_Dragons wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:16 pm
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Mother_of_Dragons wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:48 pm

Where did she say she was part of their tribe? I'll wait..
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... ive-ameri/

It’s a rather long article but I will just c&p some pertinent parts.

Warren’s central offense dates back to the mid 1980s, when she first formally notified law school administrators that her family tree includes Native Americans. Warren said she grew up with family stories about both grandparents on her mother’s side having some Cherokee or Delaware blood.

That genealogical claim has zero documentary evidence to back it up, according to a PolitiFact review of news and newsletter databases back to 1986.

Before this controversy arose in 2012, there is no account that Warren spoke publicly of having Native American roots, although she called herself Cherokee in a local Oklahoma cookbook in 1984.

As a kid, I never asked my mom about documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage," Warren said in a 2012 campaign ad. "What kid would? But I knew my father’s family didn’t like that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware. So my parents had to elope."

In 1984, a cousin in Oklahoma asked her to contribute recipes for a cookbook billed as "recipes passed down through the Five Tribes families." The book was entitled Pow Wow Chow.

Warren sent five, and under each one, listed herself as Elizabeth Warren, Cherokee.
Having Indian blood does not automatically make you a part of the tribe. Again I fail to see where she said she was a part of one.


That's nice.
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Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:45 pm This afternoon the Cherokee Nation released a statement that said in part that DNA tests are useless in determining tribal citizenship and people using DNA to connect themselves to Cherokee Nation is inappropriate.
Even the Cherokee nation thinks she is a fraud.
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Lexy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:25 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:45 pm This afternoon the Cherokee Nation released a statement that said in part that DNA tests are useless in determining tribal citizenship and people using DNA to connect themselves to Cherokee Nation is inappropriate.
Even the Cherokee nation thinks she is a fraud.
She never claimed to be a part of their tribe. No matter how many times you girls repeat the lie doesn't make it any more true.
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Lexy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:25 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:45 pm This afternoon the Cherokee Nation released a statement that said in part that DNA tests are useless in determining tribal citizenship and people using DNA to connect themselves to Cherokee Nation is inappropriate.
Even the Cherokee nation thinks she is a fraud.

There is really no low that some folks won't go to get an advantage.
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Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:29 pm
Lexy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:25 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:45 pm This afternoon the Cherokee Nation released a statement that said in part that DNA tests are useless in determining tribal citizenship and people using DNA to connect themselves to Cherokee Nation is inappropriate.
Even the Cherokee nation thinks she is a fraud.

There is really no low that some folks won't go to get an advantage.
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In their statement, the Cherokee Nation said it is inappropriate to make claims using DNA tests to be "part of their tribe or any other nation". They are taking exception to everything Elizabeth Warren is trying to claim. They didn't say, but I'm sure they could have, that their dislike of her using this DNA test does not change the fact they are highly insulted by President Trump's continued use of the name Pocohantas as a negative / insult. They are still offended by that. But I think it's fair to say, they think her claims of being NA in any % is insulting.
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Lexy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:25 pm
Billie.jeens wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:45 pm This afternoon the Cherokee Nation released a statement that said in part that DNA tests are useless in determining tribal citizenship and people using DNA to connect themselves to Cherokee Nation is inappropriate.
Even the Cherokee nation thinks she is a fraud.
She never claimed to be a part of their tribe. No matter how many times you girls repeat the lie doesn't make it any more true.
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I don't think this went quite as she thought it would.

Even Barack hussein trashed her today.
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KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:51 pm In their statement, the Cherokee Nation said it is inappropriate to make claims using DNA tests to be "part of their tribe or any other nation". They are taking exception to everything Elizabeth Warren is trying to claim. They didn't say, but I'm sure they could have, that their dislike of her using this DNA test does not change the fact they are highly insulted by President Trump's continued use of the name Pocohantas as a negative / insult. They are still offended by that. But I think it's fair to say, they think her claims of being NA in any % is insulting.
Mother_of_Dragons wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:27 pm
Lexy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:25 pm

Even the Cherokee nation thinks she is a fraud.
She never claimed to be a part of their tribe. No matter how many times you girls repeat the lie doesn't make it any more true.
For the 50th time, she never claimed to be a part of a tribe so that is meaningless.
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I see what you are saying now.
No need to have a nasty attitude. Like I believe you've shouted at me in the past - if you were clear in your comment, we might not think you were wrong.

Although, in some ways, claiming ancestry can be claiming association with a tribe if only through insinuation. And I'm sure you know that. Take the Cherokee Nation's statement on Warren the same way you take other NA statements on President Trump. They are not happy with what is being said.
Mother_of_Dragons wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:22 pm
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:51 pm In their statement, the Cherokee Nation said it is inappropriate to make claims using DNA tests to be "part of their tribe or any other nation". They are taking exception to everything Elizabeth Warren is trying to claim. They didn't say, but I'm sure they could have, that their dislike of her using this DNA test does not change the fact they are highly insulted by President Trump's continued use of the name Pocohantas as a negative / insult. They are still offended by that. But I think it's fair to say, they think her claims of being NA in any % is insulting.
Mother_of_Dragons wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:27 pm

She never claimed to be a part of their tribe. No matter how many times you girls repeat the lie doesn't make it any more true.
For the 50th time, she never claimed to be a part of a tribe so that is meaningless.
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KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:44 pm I see what you are saying now.
No need to have a nasty attitude. Like I believe you've shouted at me in the past - if you were clear in your comment, we might not think you were wrong.

Although, in some ways, claiming ancestry can be claiming association with a tribe if only through insinuation. And I'm sure you know that. Take the Cherokee Nation's statement on Warren the same way you take other NA statements on President Trump. They are not happy with what is being said.
Mother_of_Dragons wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:22 pm
KnotaDinghy wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:51 pm In their statement, the Cherokee Nation said it is inappropriate to make claims using DNA tests to be "part of their tribe or any other nation". They are taking exception to everything Elizabeth Warren is trying to claim. They didn't say, but I'm sure they could have, that their dislike of her using this DNA test does not change the fact they are highly insulted by President Trump's continued use of the name Pocohantas as a negative / insult. They are still offended by that. But I think it's fair to say, they think her claims of being NA in any % is insulting.
For the 50th time, she never claimed to be a part of a tribe so that is meaningless.
I apologise sincerely but when you have to repeat something over and over and people pretend you said nothing or they merely repeat their lies it is a bit aggravating.

That isn't the way it works with tribes. Just having a bloodline to a tribe does not make you a part of the tribe. I am NA.

She claimed to have NA ancestry which she has now proven. Not that she was a part of any tribe.
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