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Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:11 pm Exactly. These protests have never been about Palestine. That’s been the excuse. And now it’s even more obvious. They’ve been getting away with their violent and hateful demonstrations , they’re becoming increasingly aggressive. What happened in Wall Street and later the Brooklyn Bridge, for example, is appalling. People chanting “death to America”, waving Hezbollah flags, wearing Hamas headbands and burning an American flag they forcibly took from a counter protester isn’t a “pro Palestinian protest”. It’s a pro terrorist rally. That shouldn’t be protected under freedom of speech. Promoting and inciting terrorism should be illegal. Actually, I thought it was. Guess either I was wrong or is fine now.
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:58 pmI don’t think you get me…WellPreserved wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:04 pm
Blacksburg, Virginia is part of my extended community as is Virginia Tech. Vigils were held over the weekend and today and the outpouring of support and love and attendees was incredible. I never once thought, is that vigil permitted? What if an ambulance were blocked? I no longer support the VA Tech community because of the way they organized their vigil!
If someone no longer supports Palestine because of the protests on the bridge, they were never a supporter. If someone no longer supports the Black community because of some bad actors during BLM marches, they were never a supporter. If someone no longer supports environmental issues because some environmentalists chained themselves to trees, they were never supporters. People support causes they believe in regardless of bad actors just like people don't support causes despite good actors.
I see that I'm not giving you your desired response regarding protestors on bridges. All I can give you is that protests should always be permitted and those protests that are in violation should be charged. I'm not going to be calling for blood or hanging because I don't think that's warranted. Perhaps one of the other posters can give you the answers you seek?
I’m saying these protesters have literally nothing to do with anyone’s support or non-support for the Palestinian cause.
The dying children do… the murdered journalists do, but as far as people blocking the road? Nothing at all…
It’s insanely narcissistic that they believe they would have any kind of influence over anyone’s views by being an annoyance…
But yeah… I’ve gotta go for the night, be back tomorrow.
And what was once a beautiful city is now a filthy pile of flaming shit…
Yes, intent matters…Della wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:30 pmSo, it only matters if it's purposeful. It doesn't matter otherwise. Gotcha.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:28 pmDo you understand the difference between unintended delays they are trying to fix, and someone blocking an ambulance ON PURPOSE.Della wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:04 pm
How about these ambulance blockers?
https://www.ems.gov/resources/newslette ... roadblocks
The “on purpose” part REALLY matters here, regardless of how many accidental delays you post about.
Farmers are blocking roads from India to France.
Yes.Della wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:26 pmAZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:21 pmAs can I, Della, and often between the lines that someone doesn't realize are showing.
To answer your question pertaining to weapons, it's situational.
Should Israel be held to the same standards as other U.S. arms recipients?
Do you believe it is being and has been held to the same standards?AZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:47 pmYes.Della wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:26 pmAZOldGal66 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:21 pm
As can I, Della, and often between the lines that someone doesn't realize are showing.
To answer your question pertaining to weapons, it's situational.
Should Israel be held to the same standards as other U.S. arms recipients?
Collateral damageSlimshandy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:04 amYes, intent matters…Della wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:30 pmSo, it only matters if it's purposeful. It doesn't matter otherwise. Gotcha.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:28 pm
Do you understand the difference between unintended delays they are trying to fix, and someone blocking an ambulance ON PURPOSE.
The “on purpose” part REALLY matters here, regardless of how many accidental delays you post about.
Is that a crazy notion to you?
I haven’t seen it happen in the two red states I’ve lived in either.EarlGrayHot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:32 pm Yes it's annoying and NO you CANNOT take matters into your own hands. And I'm sick of the implication that this kind of thing only happens in "red" states. In fact, it doesn't really happen all that much here.
