Donald Trump's Losing White Evangelicals to Joe Biden

[Slimshandy]

Evangelical has an actual meaning , and it’s not associated with a political view.
They’re the Christians that focus on the gospel and “Good News” that Christ spread.

[Della]

Evangelical has an actual meaning , and it’s not associated with a political view.
They’re the Christians that focus on the gospel and “Good News” that Christ spread.

Tomayto, tomato,

https://www.oah.org/tah/november-5/evan ... -politics/

[Slimshandy]

Evangelical has an actual meaning , and it’s not associated with a political view.
They’re the Christians that focus on the gospel and “Good News” that Christ spread.

Tomayto, tomato,

https://www.oah.org/tah/november-5/evan ... -politics/

I wonder how many out of those four writers are evangelical.

[Della]

Evangelical has an actual meaning , and it’s not associated with a political view.
They’re the Christians that focus on the gospel and “Good News” that Christ spread.

Tomayto, tomato,

https://www.oah.org/tah/november-5/evan ... -politics/

I wonder how many out of those four writers are evangelical.

You seem to think that people outside of a group are wrong to write about or study it.

[mommy_jules]

I think people need to understand what evangelical means theologically and historically to understand what is going on here. Evangelical has a theological meaning but it is still rather broad definition spanning a plethora of denominations across the globe. So you are going to get a wide spectrum of varying beliefs from Presbyterian to Pentecostal to Baptist to Lutheran to non-denominational so on and so forth. At the same time evangelical has been a voting bloc for a long time, it has also been conflated with the Moral Majority, Christian Right, etc. so much so that it’s not only a theological term but a ideology, political term, etc. Since 2016, there has been outspoken evangelical opposition to Trump and Trumpism. It might not be on everyone’s radar, because if you aren’t part of this world then why do you care, right? and quite frankly they aren’t the loudest or shocking, so they probably are not that interesting. However, they are still there, and they’ve been consistent in speaking out, and they are getting the attention of those outside of their sphere and other evangelicals are listening as well. They still don’t have the ears of the majority because they’ve been branded as “wolves in sheep clothing”.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/ ... vangelical

[Slimshandy]

Tomayto, tomato,

https://www.oah.org/tah/november-5/evan ... -politics/

I wonder how many out of those four writers are evangelical.

You seem to think that people outside of a group are wrong to write about or study it.

Very true. Well, not wrong to study it, but to write about that culture as though you are an expert on it is wrong.

If you’re an outsider writing about another culture, you will not understand all of the intricacies of that culture, nor be able to accurately grasp what motivates them.

You can make very educated guesses…but that’s the extent of it. The only experts on any specific culture are the members of that culture, not armchair anthropologists.

[mommy_jules]

Evangelical has an actual meaning , and it’s not associated with a political view.
They’re the Christians that focus on the gospel and “Good News” that Christ spread.

Tomayto, tomato,

https://www.oah.org/tah/november-5/evan ... -politics/

I wonder how many out of those four writers are evangelical.

John Fea is. I don’t immediately recognize the other names, but there is a good chance that they are as well.

[MonarchMom]

I wonder how many out of those four writers are evangelical.

You seem to think that people outside of a group are wrong to write about or study it.

Very true. Well, not wrong to study it, but to write about that culture as though you are an expert on it is wrong.

If you’re an outsider writing about another culture, you will not understand all of the intricacies of that culture, nor be able to accurately grasp what motivates them.

You can make very educated guesses…but that’s the extent of it. The only experts on any specific culture are the members of that culture, not armchair anthropologists.

You can also be inside a group and blind to what the leadership is doing, the motivations and the repercussions. Just being a member of a group does not mean someone has the background to examine context and history. It just means you know the daily experience.

People who study religion, culture or social groups professionally are not doing so from an "armchair" nor are the "guessing." They have the training and skills to collect data, interview subjects and anaylize information. You may not agree with the conclusions they draw, but that does not mean they are inaccurate.

[WellPreserved]

Evangelical has an actual meaning , and it’s not associated with a political view.
They’re the Christians that focus on the gospel and “Good News” that Christ spread.

Tomayto, tomato,

https://www.oah.org/tah/november-5/evan ... -politics/

I wonder how many out of those four writers are evangelical.

It's pretty easy to google, lol.
Lerone Martin is a Black Evangelical and is an associate professor of religious studies at Stanford
Laura Gifford holds a PhD in American History and is a Deacon in the Evangelical Lutheran Church
John Fea "is a Distinguished Professor of History at Messiah College in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. A scholar of early American history and American religious history, he is the author of several books..." and is Evangelical
R Marie Griffith is a professor at Washington University in St. Louis - "Professor Griffith writes extensively on religion and politics, including topics on evangelical women. She is ​a frequent media commentator and public speaker on current issues, including the changing profile of American evangelicals and ongoing conflicts over gender, sexuality and marriage." She grew up as a Southern Baptist and was previously a professor at Harvard school of Divinity.

[Slimshandy]

You seem to think that people outside of a group are wrong to write about or study it.

Very true. Well, not wrong to study it, but to write about that culture as though you are an expert on it is wrong.

If you’re an outsider writing about another culture, you will not understand all of the intricacies of that culture, nor be able to accurately grasp what motivates them.

You can make very educated guesses…but that’s the extent of it. The only experts on any specific culture are the members of that culture, not armchair anthropologists.

You can also be inside a group and blind to what the leadership is doing, the motivations and the repercussions. Just being a member of a group does not mean someone has the background to examine context and history. It just means you know the daily experience.

People who study religion, culture or social groups professionally are not doing so from an "armchair" nor are the "guessing." They have the training and skills to collect data, interview subjects and anaylize information. You may not agree with the conclusions they draw, but that does not mean they are inaccurate.

Armchair anthropologist is an actual term.

Look it up.