Violence. Should it be avoided at all costs, or a tool that is sometimes needed…

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What do you think of this video?
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Yuck. Peterson seems to have tried to lean into the rhetoric of the 90s, "I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative" mantra. No one is buying it, I hope.
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:22 pm Yuck. Peterson seems to have tried to lean into the rhetoric of the 90s, "I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative" mantra. No one is buying it, I hope.
Ok.


But if you read the script of this without putting thoughts into who said them… just judging the words alone… what do you think?
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:29 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:22 pm Yuck. Peterson seems to have tried to lean into the rhetoric of the 90s, "I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative" mantra. No one is buying it, I hope.
Ok.


But if you read the script of this without putting thoughts into who said them… just judging the words alone… what do you think?
Sorry, can't do it. I can't take a 54 second video clip from someone like Peterson and try to judge without bias.

I mean, this guy had some good points:

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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:46 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:29 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:22 pm Yuck. Peterson seems to have tried to lean into the rhetoric of the 90s, "I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative" mantra. No one is buying it, I hope.
Ok.


But if you read the script of this without putting thoughts into who said them… just judging the words alone… what do you think?
Sorry, can't do it. I can't take a 54 second video clip from someone like Peterson and try to judge without bias.

I mean, this guy had some good points:

Umm? No…
Hitler didn’t have a lot of good points.

But ok, nevermind then, I guess you can’t partake in the discussion without bias.
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It’s not playing for me. What is the name? I’ll go look it up.


Edit: Wait, never mind. It just took awhile to load .
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:59 pm It’s not playing for me. What is the name? I’ll go look it up.
Google “ Jordan Peterson men should be dangerous” it’s a 54 second video
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:00 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:59 pm It’s not playing for me. What is the name? I’ll go look it up.
Google “ Jordan Peterson men should be dangerous” it’s a 54 second video
It came up. Idk anything about the dude who is talking but I can relate to what he is saying if I am understanding his point correctly. It’s good to be nice but you have to know how to shut your emotions off and fight when it comes to protecting yourself, family, etc.

If that is what he is saying, I don’t have a problem with it.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:17 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:00 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 7:59 pm It’s not playing for me. What is the name? I’ll go look it up.
Google “ Jordan Peterson men should be dangerous” it’s a 54 second video
It came up. Idk anything about the dude who is talking but I can relate to what he is saying if I am understanding his point correctly. It’s good to be nice but you have to know how to shut your emotions off and fight when it comes to protecting yourself, family, etc.

If that is what he is saying, I don’t have a problem with it.
To me, I think he’s saying virtue is in control, not inability.


That some of the most virtuous are those who study martial arts, because while they are learning to be dangerous, they are learning control most of all and those two married make for a non-violent virtuous person.
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