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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:41 pm
Are you literally trying to say that you are unable to judge six sentences for what they are without taking into account everything the person who said them has ever said?


There is not a single person alive who has never said something stupid…if you are actually unable to judge words by their merit, I’m sorry… but derailing the topic isn’t a way to actually debate the words being discussed…
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:41 pm
Is he apart of the manosphere crew? I have never heard of him before.
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:41 pm
Is he apart of the manosphere crew? I have never heard of him before.
I’m not sure what the manosphere is, but he’s a psychoanalyst and gives a lot of university talks/ teaches university classes in Canada
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:58 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:52 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:41 pm
Is he apart of the manosphere crew? I have never heard of him before.
I’m not sure what the manosphere is, but he’s a psychoanalyst and gives a lot of university talks/ teaches university classes in Canada
I guess it is a community of men that some people call “toxic masculinity”.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:09 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:58 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:52 pm

Is he apart of the manosphere crew? I have never heard of him before.
I’m not sure what the manosphere is, but he’s a psychoanalyst and gives a lot of university talks/ teaches university classes in Canada
I guess it is a community of men that some people call “toxic masculinity”.
I mean… I don’t think what he says is toxic from what I’ve seen. He does believe that there are typically differences in how men and women act from a psychoanalyst view, but often times he’s insulting the way the men act.
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SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:09 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:58 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:52 pm

Is he apart of the manosphere crew? I have never heard of him before.
I’m not sure what the manosphere is, but he’s a psychoanalyst and gives a lot of university talks/ teaches university classes in Canada
I guess it is a community of men that some people call “toxic masculinity”.
Yes. And he spews his rhetoric with pseudo-intellectual jargon to make people believe that he is somehow an authority. He is loved by incels and by extension, he loves them. He's really big into machismo which include intensionally misgendering including a quote along the lines of he'd "rather die that do" regarding using appropriate pronouns and women who wear make-up in the workplace are kinda asking for it. He's been on Ben Shapiro's show multiple times. I wouldn't have known shit about him except that he was taken off twitter and then returned under Musk and everything he posts is just "yuck".

Sorry, not sorry, that I won't read or listen to a few lines and discuss whether or not I agree with what he says. He's gross, all the way around, and giving him attention for even a few lines lends credence to all the other bullshit that he's said.
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:40 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:09 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 8:58 pm

I’m not sure what the manosphere is, but he’s a psychoanalyst and gives a lot of university talks/ teaches university classes in Canada
I guess it is a community of men that some people call “toxic masculinity”.
Yes. And he spews his rhetoric with pseudo-intellectual jargon to make people believe that he is somehow an authority. He is loved by incels and by extension, he loves them. He's really big into machismo which include intensionally misgendering including a quote along the lines of he'd "rather die that do" regarding using appropriate pronouns and women who wear make-up in the workplace are kinda asking for it. He's been on Ben Shapiro's show multiple times. I wouldn't have known shit about him except that he was taken off twitter and then returned under Musk and everything he posts is just "yuck".

Sorry, not sorry, that I won't read or listen to a few lines and discuss whether or not I agree with what he says. He's gross, all the way around, and giving him attention for even a few lines lends credence to all the other bullshit that he's said.
Lmao… trying to talk shit about someone while calling people “incels”…

The hypocrisy is palpable.


If you can’t find it within yourself to discuss the topic, don’t let the door hit ya…
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:45 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:40 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:09 pm

I guess it is a community of men that some people call “toxic masculinity”.
Yes. And he spews his rhetoric with pseudo-intellectual jargon to make people believe that he is somehow an authority. He is loved by incels and by extension, he loves them. He's really big into machismo which include intensionally misgendering including a quote along the lines of he'd "rather die that do" regarding using appropriate pronouns and women who wear make-up in the workplace are kinda asking for it. He's been on Ben Shapiro's show multiple times. I wouldn't have known shit about him except that he was taken off twitter and then returned under Musk and everything he posts is just "yuck".

Sorry, not sorry, that I won't read or listen to a few lines and discuss whether or not I agree with what he says. He's gross, all the way around, and giving him attention for even a few lines lends credence to all the other bullshit that he's said.
Lmao… trying to talk shit about someone while calling people “incels”…

The hypocrisy is palpable.


If you can’t find it within yourself to discuss the topic, don’t let the door hit ya…
Actually, I forgot to put it into quotes as Jordan Peterson himself claimed to be loved by incels.

He's shit and I have no problem calling that out and don't see that as derailing the conversation. But if you do, fine. I'm out because I've said all I have to say. It's your post.
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WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:54 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:45 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:40 pm

Yes. And he spews his rhetoric with pseudo-intellectual jargon to make people believe that he is somehow an authority. He is loved by incels and by extension, he loves them. He's really big into machismo which include intensionally misgendering including a quote along the lines of he'd "rather die that do" regarding using appropriate pronouns and women who wear make-up in the workplace are kinda asking for it. He's been on Ben Shapiro's show multiple times. I wouldn't have known shit about him except that he was taken off twitter and then returned under Musk and everything he posts is just "yuck".

Sorry, not sorry, that I won't read or listen to a few lines and discuss whether or not I agree with what he says. He's gross, all the way around, and giving him attention for even a few lines lends credence to all the other bullshit that he's said.
Lmao… trying to talk shit about someone while calling people “incels”…

The hypocrisy is palpable.


If you can’t find it within yourself to discuss the topic, don’t let the door hit ya…
Actually, I forgot to put it into quotes as Jordan Peterson himself claimed to be loved by incels.

He's shit and I have no problem calling that out and don't see that as derailing the conversation. But if you do, fine. I'm out because I've said all I have to say. It's your post.
Regardless of what this guy said… it’s bullshit to call people incels.

Whether it’s you or him…it’s bullshit.

Whether it’s you or him saying Hitler had some good points, it’s bullshit…he didn’t.

I am capable of discussing an idea… if you’re not, so be it.

If you don’t want to talk about the post topic… don’t. No one is requiring it of you… but you respond A LOT to posts you don’t seem to want to be in…you should feel no pressure to respond to the post.
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:58 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:54 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:45 pm

Lmao… trying to talk shit about someone while calling people “incels”…

The hypocrisy is palpable.


If you can’t find it within yourself to discuss the topic, don’t let the door hit ya…
Actually, I forgot to put it into quotes as Jordan Peterson himself claimed to be loved by incels.

He's shit and I have no problem calling that out and don't see that as derailing the conversation. But if you do, fine. I'm out because I've said all I have to say. It's your post.
Regardless of what this guy said… it’s bullshit to call people incels.

Whether it’s you or him…it’s bullshit.

Whether it’s you or him saying Hitler had some good points, it’s bullshit…he didn’t.

I am capable of discussing an idea… if you’re not, so be it.

If you don’t want to talk about the post topic… don’t. No one is requiring it of you… but you respond A LOT to posts you don’t seem to want to be in…you should feel no pressure to respond to the post.
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