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Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:31 am
by Aletheia
Bobcobbagob wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 7:33 pm
SallyMae wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 4:54 pm
Aletheia wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 4:32 pm

How about someone produce a Winnie-the-Pooh book teaching children legal ways to oppose the re-election of any politician who votes against gun control laws?
Title: Pooh and Friends Stand Up for Safety

Text:
Once upon a time in the Hundred Acre Wood, Winnie the Pooh and his friends had an important mission. They wanted to make their world a safer place. They knew that some things needed to change, especially when it came to guns. So, they decided to become activists for gun control.

Chapter 1: A Thoughtful Bear
Winnie the Pooh sat under a big oak tree, his honey jar by his side. He thought about his friends and how they could work together to create a safer environment. Pooh realized that they needed to start by learning more about the issue of gun safety.

Chapter 2: Tigger Takes Action
Tigger bounced around the Hundred Acre Wood, spreading the word about gun control. He invited everyone to a meeting at Rabbit's cozy home. There, they discussed the importance of keeping guns away from those who might misuse them and how to oppose politicians who supported gun proliferation.

Chapter 3: Owl's Wisdom
Owl, the wise old bird, shared his knowledge with the group. He explained the importance of understanding both sides of the issue and finding common ground with others. Owl's words encouraged everyone to be respectful when discussing gun control with those who held different opinions.

Chapter 4: Piglet Finds Courage
Piglet was scared to speak up, but he knew that making a change required bravery. With the support of his friends, Piglet found the courage to attend community meetings and express his concerns about gun safety. His small voice became stronger with each word he spoke.

Chapter 5: Eeyore's Empathy
Eeyore, despite his gloomy nature, had a big heart. He reminded everyone that supporting gun control meant caring for the safety and well-being of all. Eeyore encouraged his friends to have empathy for those affected by gun violence and to never give up on their mission.

Chapter 6: Rabbit's Rally
Rabbit used his organizational skills to plan a peaceful rally for gun control. Pooh and his friends created signs with powerful messages, such as "Safety First" and "Protect Our World." They marched together, spreading their message of peace and advocating for change.

Illustrations:

1. Winnie the Pooh sitting thoughtfully under a tree, surrounded by colorful flowers and his beloved honey jar.
2. Tigger bouncing joyfully, inviting his friends to the meeting with a big smile on his face.
3. Owl perched on a branch, sharing his wisdom with Pooh and friends gathered around him.
4. Piglet nervously speaking at a community meeting, with encouraging smiles from Pooh and his friends.
5. Eeyore standing with a compassionate expression, comforting a sad friend and reminding everyone of the importance of empathy.
6. Rabbit leading a peaceful rally, Pooh and his friends marching together with their signs held high, showing their determination for change.

Remember, this book teaches children about advocating for gun control in a peaceful and respectful manner, while opposing politicians who support gun proliferation. It aims to empower young minds to take action for a safer world.
That would be a cool book, but it wouldn’t teach them anything about how to survive a school shooting.


It would teach advocacy, which is great…they should definitely learn how to take control over their lives in the whole sense, but nothing about how to stay alive during a shooting.


They need to learn how to take as much control of their situation they can, within seconds. Not just advocacy that might take months if not years… they need to know what to do within 30 seconds.
If someone decides to set up a tiger breeding farm in the middle of a town, and there are several incidents of tigers getting loose and eating children, you don't react by trying to teach all the town's children how to increase their chances of surviving a tiger attacking their school. YOU CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Sure, tigers are perfectly safe in the hands of well trained tiger owners. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Those well trained tiger owners might even be using their pet tigers to defend their homes. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:31 am
by Deleted User 2267
Aletheia wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:31 am
Bobcobbagob wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 7:33 pm
SallyMae wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 4:54 pm

Title: Pooh and Friends Stand Up for Safety

Text:
Once upon a time in the Hundred Acre Wood, Winnie the Pooh and his friends had an important mission. They wanted to make their world a safer place. They knew that some things needed to change, especially when it came to guns. So, they decided to become activists for gun control.

Chapter 1: A Thoughtful Bear
Winnie the Pooh sat under a big oak tree, his honey jar by his side. He thought about his friends and how they could work together to create a safer environment. Pooh realized that they needed to start by learning more about the issue of gun safety.

Chapter 2: Tigger Takes Action
Tigger bounced around the Hundred Acre Wood, spreading the word about gun control. He invited everyone to a meeting at Rabbit's cozy home. There, they discussed the importance of keeping guns away from those who might misuse them and how to oppose politicians who supported gun proliferation.

Chapter 3: Owl's Wisdom
Owl, the wise old bird, shared his knowledge with the group. He explained the importance of understanding both sides of the issue and finding common ground with others. Owl's words encouraged everyone to be respectful when discussing gun control with those who held different opinions.

Chapter 4: Piglet Finds Courage
Piglet was scared to speak up, but he knew that making a change required bravery. With the support of his friends, Piglet found the courage to attend community meetings and express his concerns about gun safety. His small voice became stronger with each word he spoke.

Chapter 5: Eeyore's Empathy
Eeyore, despite his gloomy nature, had a big heart. He reminded everyone that supporting gun control meant caring for the safety and well-being of all. Eeyore encouraged his friends to have empathy for those affected by gun violence and to never give up on their mission.

Chapter 6: Rabbit's Rally
Rabbit used his organizational skills to plan a peaceful rally for gun control. Pooh and his friends created signs with powerful messages, such as "Safety First" and "Protect Our World." They marched together, spreading their message of peace and advocating for change.

Illustrations:

1. Winnie the Pooh sitting thoughtfully under a tree, surrounded by colorful flowers and his beloved honey jar.
2. Tigger bouncing joyfully, inviting his friends to the meeting with a big smile on his face.
3. Owl perched on a branch, sharing his wisdom with Pooh and friends gathered around him.
4. Piglet nervously speaking at a community meeting, with encouraging smiles from Pooh and his friends.
5. Eeyore standing with a compassionate expression, comforting a sad friend and reminding everyone of the importance of empathy.
6. Rabbit leading a peaceful rally, Pooh and his friends marching together with their signs held high, showing their determination for change.

Remember, this book teaches children about advocating for gun control in a peaceful and respectful manner, while opposing politicians who support gun proliferation. It aims to empower young minds to take action for a safer world.
That would be a cool book, but it wouldn’t teach them anything about how to survive a school shooting.


It would teach advocacy, which is great…they should definitely learn how to take control over their lives in the whole sense, but nothing about how to stay alive during a shooting.


They need to learn how to take as much control of their situation they can, within seconds. Not just advocacy that might take months if not years… they need to know what to do within 30 seconds.
If someone decides to set up a tiger breeding farm in the middle of a town, and there are several incidents of tigers getting loose and eating children, you don't react by trying to teach all the town's children how to increase their chances of surviving a tiger attacking their school. YOU CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Sure, tigers are perfectly safe in the hands of well trained tiger owners. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Those well trained tiger owners might even be using their pet tigers to defend their homes. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.
That would be a simple solution there… but in this case, the tigers all got out years ago, they’ve breed like crazy and those kids are now surrounded by 300 million tigers that you have no idea where they could pop out from next…

You damn well better teach those kids how to survive a tiger attack.

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:33 am
by Della
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:31 am
Aletheia wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:31 am
Bobcobbagob wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 7:33 pm

That would be a cool book, but it wouldn’t teach them anything about how to survive a school shooting.


It would teach advocacy, which is great…they should definitely learn how to take control over their lives in the whole sense, but nothing about how to stay alive during a shooting.


They need to learn how to take as much control of their situation they can, within seconds. Not just advocacy that might take months if not years… they need to know what to do within 30 seconds.
If someone decides to set up a tiger breeding farm in the middle of a town, and there are several incidents of tigers getting loose and eating children, you don't react by trying to teach all the town's children how to increase their chances of surviving a tiger attacking their school. YOU CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Sure, tigers are perfectly safe in the hands of well trained tiger owners. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Those well trained tiger owners might even be using their pet tigers to defend their homes. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.
That would be a simple solution there… but in this case, the tigers all got out years ago, they’ve breed like crazy and those kids are now surrounded by 300 million tigers that you have no idea where they could pop out from next…

You damn well better teach those kids how to survive a tiger attack.
Ridiculous

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:39 am
by Deleted User 2267
WellPreserved wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:40 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:11 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:06 pm

Are there any adults to call for help in this book?
I haven’t read the full book, but in reality- no. There isn’t.

We can try to teach them as much as we can about saving the lives of others… and that’s a noble lesson…but in the situation; they’re alone.

As terrifying and heart stopping as that is… they’re alone trying to get through it, it’s only them and the person trying to murder them.
Doesn't that say something about a society that tells 4 year olds you're on your own?

This is my problem with the book. We're not giving these young children any kind of sense of "here are tools until help arrives". We're saying that you're on your own. "We" know that active shooter drills and continuing cases of active shooters is mentally damaging our children but yet it seems we just pile it on and say suck it up and deal with it.
I don’t think the book is saying no one is coming… but there is a 30second - 5 minute window where they will be in their own and they need to know the best survival methods within that time.

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 7:40 am
by Deleted User 2267
Della wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:33 am
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:31 am
Aletheia wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:31 am

If someone decides to set up a tiger breeding farm in the middle of a town, and there are several incidents of tigers getting loose and eating children, you don't react by trying to teach all the town's children how to increase their chances of surviving a tiger attacking their school. YOU CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Sure, tigers are perfectly safe in the hands of well trained tiger owners. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.

Those well trained tiger owners might even be using their pet tigers to defend their homes. But you still CLOSE DOWN THE TIGER FARM.
That would be a simple solution there… but in this case, the tigers all got out years ago, they’ve breed like crazy and those kids are now surrounded by 300 million tigers that you have no idea where they could pop out from next…

You damn well better teach those kids how to survive a tiger attack.
Ridiculous
I’m not sure what that response means… you think it’s ridiculous that there are so many guns in the country, or you think it’s ridiculous to teach the survival methods to kids?

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am
by Valentina327
Weren't the grammar school kids in the 50s \ 60s constantly practicing what to do if a bomb was dropped? Don't they have fire drills in grammar school? Anyone heard of stop, drop and roll? Wasn't all of that taught as a preventative measure?

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 9:07 am
by WellPreserved

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 9:41 am
by MonarchMom
Valentina327 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am Weren't the grammar school kids in the 50s \ 60s constantly practicing what to do if a bomb was dropped? Don't they have fire drills in grammar school? Anyone heard of stop, drop and roll? Wasn't all of that taught as a preventative measure?
Yes and yes - but during the 1960's years of hiding under our desks we were not seeing daily reports of bombings at schools, or students and teachers killed in classrooms by former students or random citizens.

Now students have to rehearse for lethal events that are anticipated. And young students are being trained to apply "stop the bleed" first aid during an attack. It feels quite different.

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 10:15 am
by Della
Valentina327 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am Weren't the grammar school kids in the 50s \ 60s constantly practicing what to do if a bomb was dropped? Don't they have fire drills in grammar school? Anyone heard of stop, drop and roll? Wasn't all of that taught as a preventative measure?
Were they taught to take on Russian soldiers?

Re: Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 12:02 pm
by Traci_Momof2
Valentina327 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am Weren't the grammar school kids in the 50s \ 60s constantly practicing what to do if a bomb was dropped? Don't they have fire drills in grammar school? Anyone heard of stop, drop and roll? Wasn't all of that taught as a preventative measure?
Interesting you mention that. I was recently reading comments on FB and read one from a woman who said she was a young girl in the 60s. She found those bomb drills to be quite traumatizing and said she wouldn't want kids today to go through the same thing. And yet they are with their active shooter drills.

You'd think we could find a way to improve over the decades but perhaps not.