Winnie-the-Pooh book teaches Texas kids to ‘run, hide, fight’ in a shooting

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Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:31 am That would be a simple solution there… but in this case, the tigers all got out years ago, they’ve breed like crazy and those kids are now surrounded by 300 million tigers that you have no idea where they could pop out from next…

You damn well better teach those kids how to survive a tiger attack.
No, you kill the F***ing tigers, now. We have that ability.
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Freaking sad that this is necessary.
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SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:17 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:31 am That would be a simple solution there… but in this case, the tigers all got out years ago, they’ve breed like crazy and those kids are now surrounded by 300 million tigers that you have no idea where they could pop out from next…

You damn well better teach those kids how to survive a tiger attack.
No, you kill the F***ing tigers, now. We have that ability.
We don’t have that ability… we don’t know where half of the tigers are, and they’re all a protected species.
Even if we take away their protected status, we still don’t know where the rest are…
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:47 pm
SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:17 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 7:31 am That would be a simple solution there… but in this case, the tigers all got out years ago, they’ve breed like crazy and those kids are now surrounded by 300 million tigers that you have no idea where they could pop out from next…

You damn well better teach those kids how to survive a tiger attack.
No, you kill the F***ing tigers, now. We have that ability.
We don’t have that ability… we don’t know where half of the tigers are, and they’re all a protected species.
Even if we take away their protected status, we still don’t know where the rest are…
You just have to be smarter than the tigers, which we are. These aren't wild tigers; *every single one* lives in a home and has an owner, who is ultimately responsible. We can change the laws, offer big incentives to people to turn in their tigers, create a culture where harboring a tiger is seen as a danger to society instead of a show of manly patriotism. We can require strict regulation of the tiger trade, limiting the number and types of tigers people can legally own. We can destroy every tiger we confiscate (since these are metaphorical tigers, no real tigers will be harmed.) These tigers are not breeding on their own; we can go after the tiger manufacturers and limit the types of tigers they can make for the general public.

It's not on the kids to deal with these F***ing tigers and it's no use pretending the kids stand a chance against them even if they read the Pooh book.

We're the adults, the ones making the society. There are real steps we can take to limit the danger to our kids from tigers and Tigger isn't one of them.
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SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:47 pm
SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:17 pm

No, you kill the F***ing tigers, now. We have that ability.
We don’t have that ability… we don’t know where half of the tigers are, and they’re all a protected species.
Even if we take away their protected status, we still don’t know where the rest are…
You just have to be smarter than the tigers, which we are. These aren't wild tigers; *every single one* lives in a home and has an owner, who is ultimately responsible. We can change the laws, offer big incentives to people to turn in their tigers, create a culture where harboring a tiger is seen as a danger to society instead of a show of manly patriotism. We can require strict regulation of the tiger trade, limiting the number and types of tigers people can legally own. We can destroy every tiger we confiscate (since these are metaphorical tigers, no real tigers will be harmed.) These tigers are not breeding on their own; we can go after the tiger manufacturers and limit the types of tigers they can make for the general public.

It's not on the kids to deal with these F***ing tigers and it's no use pretending the kids stand a chance against them even if they read the Pooh book.

We're the adults, the ones making the society. There are real steps we can take to limit the danger to our kids from tigers and Tigger isn't one of them.
We do offer incentives for people to turn them in, we have gun buybacks all the time, people get $500 for turning them in… it only works for the people that have guns but don’t want them. It’s not going to work for people who love their guns…

I don’t think changing the culture is possible… people love their guns like they love their dogs… it would be akin to saying “let’s get society to not want dogs anymore, they often hurt people”… it’s a true sentence, but it does nothing to make people believe their own dog is dangerous.


We can try to go after manufacturers but ghost guns are extremely popular now and people ( ESPECIALLY teenage boys) know how to print out all the parts they need… the information is out there online for the taking, and we can’t really limit the knowledge being disseminated…

Limiting the amount people can have doesn’t do much to quell the shootings because someone who goes on a rampage can only hold 1-3 on them anyways…


We can make more laws about people needing to lock them up, we can make more laws about who can sell them and what kind of paperwork/background checks are needed for a sale to go through, more laws on registration … but I would say probably 90% of gun owners don’t ever become violent with another person with a gun. Until you can convince people that the gun in their own hands is a danger to society, they’re not going to willingly give them up.
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:26 pm
SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:47 pm

We don’t have that ability… we don’t know where half of the tigers are, and they’re all a protected species.
Even if we take away their protected status, we still don’t know where the rest are…
You just have to be smarter than the tigers, which we are. These aren't wild tigers; *every single one* lives in a home and has an owner, who is ultimately responsible. We can change the laws, offer big incentives to people to turn in their tigers, create a culture where harboring a tiger is seen as a danger to society instead of a show of manly patriotism. We can require strict regulation of the tiger trade, limiting the number and types of tigers people can legally own. We can destroy every tiger we confiscate (since these are metaphorical tigers, no real tigers will be harmed.) These tigers are not breeding on their own; we can go after the tiger manufacturers and limit the types of tigers they can make for the general public.

It's not on the kids to deal with these F***ing tigers and it's no use pretending the kids stand a chance against them even if they read the Pooh book.

We're the adults, the ones making the society. There are real steps we can take to limit the danger to our kids from tigers and Tigger isn't one of them.
We do offer incentives for people to turn them in, we have gun buybacks all the time, people get $500 for turning them in… it only works for the people that have guns but don’t want them. It’s not going to work for people who love their guns…

I don’t think changing the culture is possible… people love their guns like they love their dogs… it would be akin to saying “let’s get society to not want dogs anymore, they often hurt people”… it’s a true sentence, but it does nothing to make people believe their own dog is dangerous.


We can try to go after manufacturers but ghost guns are extremely popular now and people ( ESPECIALLY teenage boys) know how to print out all the parts they need… the information is out there online for the taking, and we can’t really limit the knowledge being disseminated…

Limiting the amount people can have doesn’t do much to quell the shootings because someone who goes on a rampage can only hold 1-3 on them anyways…


We can make more laws about people needing to lock them up, we can make more laws about who can sell them and what kind of paperwork/background checks are needed for a sale to go through, more laws on registration … but I would say probably 90% of gun owners don’t ever become violent with another person with a gun. Until you can convince people that the gun in their own hands is a danger to society, they’re not going to willingly give them up.
Dead kids, then. That's the choice.
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SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:35 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:26 pm
SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 pm

You just have to be smarter than the tigers, which we are. These aren't wild tigers; *every single one* lives in a home and has an owner, who is ultimately responsible. We can change the laws, offer big incentives to people to turn in their tigers, create a culture where harboring a tiger is seen as a danger to society instead of a show of manly patriotism. We can require strict regulation of the tiger trade, limiting the number and types of tigers people can legally own. We can destroy every tiger we confiscate (since these are metaphorical tigers, no real tigers will be harmed.) These tigers are not breeding on their own; we can go after the tiger manufacturers and limit the types of tigers they can make for the general public.

It's not on the kids to deal with these F***ing tigers and it's no use pretending the kids stand a chance against them even if they read the Pooh book.

We're the adults, the ones making the society. There are real steps we can take to limit the danger to our kids from tigers and Tigger isn't one of them.
We do offer incentives for people to turn them in, we have gun buybacks all the time, people get $500 for turning them in… it only works for the people that have guns but don’t want them. It’s not going to work for people who love their guns…

I don’t think changing the culture is possible… people love their guns like they love their dogs… it would be akin to saying “let’s get society to not want dogs anymore, they often hurt people”… it’s a true sentence, but it does nothing to make people believe their own dog is dangerous.


We can try to go after manufacturers but ghost guns are extremely popular now and people ( ESPECIALLY teenage boys) know how to print out all the parts they need… the information is out there online for the taking, and we can’t really limit the knowledge being disseminated…

Limiting the amount people can have doesn’t do much to quell the shootings because someone who goes on a rampage can only hold 1-3 on them anyways…


We can make more laws about people needing to lock them up, we can make more laws about who can sell them and what kind of paperwork/background checks are needed for a sale to go through, more laws on registration … but I would say probably 90% of gun owners don’t ever become violent with another person with a gun. Until you can convince people that the gun in their own hands is a danger to society, they’re not going to willingly give them up.
Dead kids, then. That's the choice.
Again, you have to get people to believe the gun in their home is a danger to school kids…

The people who don’t have any kids aren’t worried about their gun being used in a school shooting.

Most people who have kids aren’t going to believe that their high schooler is a danger to those around them.

If you can’t convince them that they’re the threat… they won’t make any moves acknowledging that.
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Traci_Momof2 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:02 pm
Valentina327 wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 8:30 am Weren't the grammar school kids in the 50s \ 60s constantly practicing what to do if a bomb was dropped? Don't they have fire drills in grammar school? Anyone heard of stop, drop and roll? Wasn't all of that taught as a preventative measure?
Interesting you mention that. I was recently reading comments on FB and read one from a woman who said she was a young girl in the 60s. She found those bomb drills to be quite traumatizing and said she wouldn't want kids today to go through the same thing. And yet they are with their active shooter drills.

You'd think we could find a way to improve over the decades but perhaps not.
You would, wouldn't you?

I suppose we can't because there will ALWAYS be some third party threat - egomaniacal leaders of other countries threatening to drop bombs, nutjobs issuing bomb threats against schools, mentally defective people with malice in their hearts wanting to take others out to somehow assuage their own misery.

It's an unfortunate part of human nature that there's those that seek to control, or are determined to inflict pain due to their own internal shortcomings. The best we can do is prepare as well as we can and protect our most vulnerable to the degree possible.
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Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:26 pm
SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 pm
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:47 pm

We don’t have that ability… we don’t know where half of the tigers are, and they’re all a protected species.
Even if we take away their protected status, we still don’t know where the rest are…
You just have to be smarter than the tigers, which we are. These aren't wild tigers; *every single one* lives in a home and has an owner, who is ultimately responsible. We can change the laws, offer big incentives to people to turn in their tigers, create a culture where harboring a tiger is seen as a danger to society instead of a show of manly patriotism. We can require strict regulation of the tiger trade, limiting the number and types of tigers people can legally own. We can destroy every tiger we confiscate (since these are metaphorical tigers, no real tigers will be harmed.) These tigers are not breeding on their own; we can go after the tiger manufacturers and limit the types of tigers they can make for the general public.

It's not on the kids to deal with these F***ing tigers and it's no use pretending the kids stand a chance against them even if they read the Pooh book.

We're the adults, the ones making the society. There are real steps we can take to limit the danger to our kids from tigers and Tigger isn't one of them.
We do offer incentives for people to turn them in, we have gun buybacks all the time, people get $500 for turning them in… it only works for the people that have guns but don’t want them. It’s not going to work for people who love their guns…

I don’t think changing the culture is possible… people love their guns like they love their dogs… it would be akin to saying “let’s get society to not want dogs anymore, they often hurt people”… it’s a true sentence, but it does nothing to make people believe their own dog is dangerous.


We can try to go after manufacturers but ghost guns are extremely popular now and people ( ESPECIALLY teenage boys) know how to print out all the parts they need… the information is out there online for the taking, and we can’t really limit the knowledge being disseminated…

Limiting the amount people can have doesn’t do much to quell the shootings because someone who goes on a rampage can only hold 1-3 on them anyways…


We can make more laws about people needing to lock them up, we can make more laws about who can sell them and what kind of paperwork/background checks are needed for a sale to go through, more laws on registration … but I would say probably 90% of gun owners don’t ever become violent with another person with a gun. Until you can convince people that the gun in their own hands is a danger to society, they’re not going to willingly give them up.
Next up, let's convince the men to cut off their penises, because rape happens. We need to convince the men that the penises in their pants are a danger to society. 🤦🤦🤦
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Valentina327 wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 12:53 am
Bobcobbagob wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 4:26 pm
SallyMae wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 2:37 pm

You just have to be smarter than the tigers, which we are. These aren't wild tigers; *every single one* lives in a home and has an owner, who is ultimately responsible. We can change the laws, offer big incentives to people to turn in their tigers, create a culture where harboring a tiger is seen as a danger to society instead of a show of manly patriotism. We can require strict regulation of the tiger trade, limiting the number and types of tigers people can legally own. We can destroy every tiger we confiscate (since these are metaphorical tigers, no real tigers will be harmed.) These tigers are not breeding on their own; we can go after the tiger manufacturers and limit the types of tigers they can make for the general public.

It's not on the kids to deal with these F***ing tigers and it's no use pretending the kids stand a chance against them even if they read the Pooh book.

We're the adults, the ones making the society. There are real steps we can take to limit the danger to our kids from tigers and Tigger isn't one of them.
We do offer incentives for people to turn them in, we have gun buybacks all the time, people get $500 for turning them in… it only works for the people that have guns but don’t want them. It’s not going to work for people who love their guns…

I don’t think changing the culture is possible… people love their guns like they love their dogs… it would be akin to saying “let’s get society to not want dogs anymore, they often hurt people”… it’s a true sentence, but it does nothing to make people believe their own dog is dangerous.


We can try to go after manufacturers but ghost guns are extremely popular now and people ( ESPECIALLY teenage boys) know how to print out all the parts they need… the information is out there online for the taking, and we can’t really limit the knowledge being disseminated…

Limiting the amount people can have doesn’t do much to quell the shootings because someone who goes on a rampage can only hold 1-3 on them anyways…


We can make more laws about people needing to lock them up, we can make more laws about who can sell them and what kind of paperwork/background checks are needed for a sale to go through, more laws on registration … but I would say probably 90% of gun owners don’t ever become violent with another person with a gun. Until you can convince people that the gun in their own hands is a danger to society, they’re not going to willingly give them up.
Next up, let's convince the men to cut off their penises, because rape happens. We need to convince the men that the penises in their pants are a danger to society. 🤦🤦🤦
That’s what I was saying when I brought up dogs…

We do know that dogs attack and kill people every year, we do know that if no one had dogs, no attacks would happen…

But that is not going to get people to give up their dog in an effort to make people more safe… the age old adage, it’s not the dog, it’s the owner… most people feel safer with their dog around and they don’t believe their dog will be the cause of an attack.

So we’re never going to get people to get rid of their dogs, but we can make laws requiring leashes, training ect…
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