Florida bill defines drag shows as ‘serious danger to public health & safety’ for kids

[Deleted User 1990]

Ummm…..fyi………straight people use S*x toys too. “Fake genitals” is a common conservative insult to the trans community and they are commonly associated with drag shows.
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I understand you think that logic is ignorant (because it is) but that’s why this is getting understandable backlash because it puts a target on them.

Dude… this is not about S*x toys… everyone and their grandmother could partake in the S*x toy enjoyment and I couldn’t care less…

You would not have any idea what a trans persons genitals look like… there are certain Drag Queens though that wear that kind of costuming that emphasizes giant fake breasts, fake camel toes that are overly visible through the clothes and that is not ok around children…
And that’s what people are arguing against, that it’s all fine and dandy for that to be around kids and then they’re making other people who dont have any clue about any of it believe that drag queens and transgender people are the same therefore we have to protect kids from them…. Then those people vote!


And now we have the F***ing bathrooms back to being legally separated even for transgendered kids ( when we had previously come pretty far on that issue) because the adults around them all likened those kids to The same person wearing the fake camel toe… whether they’re allied or enemies… they’re all doing it.


It’s literally harming transgender kids to have this adult entertainment issue lumped into their identity expression being accepted as valid.

There’s no evidence that voters are demanding or overly into the idea of the rollback of trans rights being necessary or it being a popular thing for Republicans to focus on: https://www.thirdway.org/memo/gop-attac ... -fell-flat

It’s not believable whatsoever that if people said “oh, ban kids from all drag shows? Sure, sounds good” that these anti-trans politicians would stop there.

What do you mean there’s no evidence? It’s happening now. This was 11 hours ago…
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory ... w-98031882


And no… they wouldn’t stop there. They will keep going and going and going as far as they can…
Transgenderism is not equatable to Drag Queens.
That’s the narrative that these Ultra-Conservative bastards got everyone to run with, and people on both on the democratic side and the republican side ate it up, all making their protest signs bigger than the next, all spewing this wrong information …

It’s like everyone is playing checkers while the evil bastards are playing chess…

[Carpy]

You sure like to twist shit...

From the article on "Screwdolph and the blushed nipples"

"Admission is limited to patrons 18 years of age or over, unless accompanied by a parent," reads a warning on the Fort Lauderdale event page. The Miami New Times reports the show contains off-color bits like "T*** in a Box" and "Screwdolph the Red-Nippled Reindeer."


This specifically states it is an ADULT show...and the drag show was not intended for minors. THUS ALL BLAME BELONGS TO THE PARENTS. The law in question would punish entertainers (even adult entertainers) for parents bringing their kids to the venue...Yet they are only doing this for ADULT themed Drag shows (not all drag is adult themed and those that are have age limits like the screwdolph show) . You think they will be enforcing this in regards to spring break or mardi gras activities? NO.

It actually isn’t been going on for very long, at all.


Drag shows have… Stonewall riots were extremely justifiable and drag shows have been loved as adult entertainment forever…


This kid shit is new. Brand new and we were not arguing for kids to be at drag shows at any other point in our history.



You want to do the future generations some good?

Listen to them.



There’s not one kid out there that wants more grown men with dildo harnesses and blushed nipples around them more.


But there are sooooo many that want to be able to defy the gender norms and be accepted for who they are at school and by the adults in their lives.


Blending the two together as though it’s the same agenda is seriously fucked up and literally harming the kids who are fighting for acceptance.

Strawman, of course. You have to be able to separate these ideas in your mind. It's possible to argue for people to have self determination and be allowed to enjoy activities that are not dangerous if they want to, without arguing for those activities. You know? I also think drugs should be legalized and regulated, that does not mean I am arguing "for" people to take heroin. Get it?

Yes, it is a moral panic, because people are suddenly rushing to make laws over stuff that a) has been going on for ages with little objection and b) where there is no evidence of harm.

A simple "no minors allowed" would solve that.

[Carpy]

They actively went searching for something to be offended over. I'm curious if they'll be recording at some of these concert venues.

Actually no… and that’s the main reason people are upset.


Screwdolph is from an article talking about how nothing lewd was going on but the show was being targeted anyways…


So who’s spinning things here?


If there isnt going to be any truth coming from either side of this subject narrative , voters are just going to decide for themselves… and when that happens, the people that grouped in drag shows and teenage transgender rights are going to see kids losing right after right, then go on blaming all republicans for the state of the country when they could have helped, but they went about helping in a way that set the whole thing on fire…

In THIS POST ALONE… how many of y’all think drag queens and transgendered people are the same thing?

This is literally taking away those kid’s voices and replacing them with screaming adults…

You're are waaaaay too far up on that high horse for me to have a rational conversation with, so be a dear and talk with someone else.

She is correct.

[SouthernIslander]

This was nothing more than to put a feather in his cap. There aren't even that many drag shows in the state of Florida.

Its not that many in Texas either, so the whole screwdolph thing isn't that common. Especially compared to the shit that goes on in straight events.

They actively went searching for something to be offended over. I'm curious if they'll be recording at some of these concert venues.

Snowflakes or whatever they use to call it. Lol!

[Francee89]

Dude… this is not about S*x toys… everyone and their grandmother could partake in the S*x toy enjoyment and I couldn’t care less…

You would not have any idea what a trans persons genitals look like… there are certain Drag Queens though that wear that kind of costuming that emphasizes giant fake breasts, fake camel toes that are overly visible through the clothes and that is not ok around children…
And that’s what people are arguing against, that it’s all fine and dandy for that to be around kids and then they’re making other people who dont have any clue about any of it believe that drag queens and transgender people are the same therefore we have to protect kids from them…. Then those people vote!


And now we have the F***ing bathrooms back to being legally separated even for transgendered kids ( when we had previously come pretty far on that issue) because the adults around them all likened those kids to The same person wearing the fake camel toe… whether they’re allied or enemies… they’re all doing it.


It’s literally harming transgender kids to have this adult entertainment issue lumped into their identity expression being accepted as valid.

There’s no evidence that voters are demanding or overly into the idea of the rollback of trans rights being necessary or it being a popular thing for Republicans to focus on: https://www.thirdway.org/memo/gop-attac ... -fell-flat

It’s not believable whatsoever that if people said “oh, ban kids from all drag shows? Sure, sounds good” that these anti-trans politicians would stop there.

What do you mean there’s no evidence? It’s happening now. This was 11 hours ago…
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory ... w-98031882


And no… they wouldn’t stop there. They will keep going and going and going as far as they can…
Transgenderism is not equatable to Drag Queens.
That’s the narrative that these Ultra-Conservative bastards got everyone to run with, and people on both on the democratic side and the republican side ate it up, all making their protest signs bigger than the next, all spewing this wrong information …

It’s like everyone is playing checkers while the evil bastards are playing chess…

The linked article explains there is no evidence that this culture war is a winning issue for the GOP that’s driving voters towards them. Elected Republicans were anti-trans school bathroom usage and anti-drag queen story hour at the library well before there were debates about legislation on the attendance of minors at drag shows.

[SallyMae]

What do you mean there’s no evidence? It’s happening now. This was 11 hours ago…
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory ... w-98031882


And no… they wouldn’t stop there. They will keep going and going and going as far as they can…
Transgenderism is not equatable to Drag Queens.
That’s the narrative that these Ultra-Conservative bastards got everyone to run with, and people on both on the democratic side and the republican side ate it up, all making their protest signs bigger than the next, all spewing this wrong information …

It’s like everyone is playing checkers while the evil bastards are playing chess…

Misinformation and conflation are the hallmarks of a moral panic.

[Della]

Actually no… and that’s the main reason people are upset.


Screwdolph is from an article talking about how nothing lewd was going on but the show was being targeted anyways…


So who’s spinning things here?


If there isnt going to be any truth coming from either side of this subject narrative , voters are just going to decide for themselves… and when that happens, the people that grouped in drag shows and teenage transgender rights are going to see kids losing right after right, then go on blaming all republicans for the state of the country when they could have helped, but they went about helping in a way that set the whole thing on fire…

In THIS POST ALONE… how many of y’all think drag queens and transgendered people are the same thing?

This is literally taking away those kid’s voices and replacing them with screaming adults…

You're are waaaaay too far up on that high horse for me to have a rational conversation with, so be a dear and talk with someone else.

She is correct.

What did you say one comment up from this one?

She's in a frenzy acting like this is a freaking epidemic. Which is exactly what the creators of this farce wanted.

[Deleted User 1990]

What do you mean there’s no evidence? It’s happening now. This was 11 hours ago…
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory ... w-98031882


And no… they wouldn’t stop there. They will keep going and going and going as far as they can…
Transgenderism is not equatable to Drag Queens.
That’s the narrative that these Ultra-Conservative bastards got everyone to run with, and people on both on the democratic side and the republican side ate it up, all making their protest signs bigger than the next, all spewing this wrong information …

It’s like everyone is playing checkers while the evil bastards are playing chess…

Misinformation and conflation are the hallmarks of a moral panic.

Ok.

Then pick a side... The adults who are acting irrationally or the kids who are trying to live comfortably...

[Carpy]

You're are waaaaay too far up on that high horse for me to have a rational conversation with, so be a dear and talk with someone else.

She is correct.

What did you say one comment up from this one?

She's in a frenzy acting like this is a freaking epidemic. Which is exactly what the creators of this farce wanted.

Give it time.

[Carpy]

They actively went searching for something to be offended over. I'm curious if they'll be recording at some of these concert venues.

Actually no… and that’s the main reason people are upset.


Screwdolph is from an article talking about how nothing lewd was going on but the show was being targeted anyways…


So who’s spinning things here?


If there isnt going to be any truth coming from either side of this subject narrative , voters are just going to decide for themselves… and when that happens, the people that grouped in drag shows and teenage transgender rights are going to see kids losing right after right, then go on blaming all republicans for the state of the country when they could have helped, but they went about helping in a way that set the whole thing on fire…

In THIS POST ALONE… how many of y’all think drag queens and transgendered people are the same thing?

This is literally taking away those kid’s voices and replacing them with screaming adults…

You're are waaaaay too far up on that high horse for me to have a rational conversation with, so be a dear and talk with someone else.

So I've shared this with Eva and she agrees it's harmful.