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"An Idaho hospital will stop labor and delivery services, citing doctor shortages and the "political climate," the hospital announced Friday.

"Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving. Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult," Bonner General Health, located in the city of Sandpoint, said in a news release.

Pregnant women who utilized Bonner General, a 25-bed hospital, will now have to drive to hospitals or birthing centers in Coeur d'Alene or Spokane to give birth.

In 2022, doctors delivered 265 babies at Bonner General and admitted less than 10 pediatric patients, the hospital said.

In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, abortion bans have added another challenge to rural hospitals that have struggled to keep their doors open and their facilities fully staffed and running. "

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-hosp ... =206029545

This along with the reporting of maternal death statistics in the US is just heart-breaking.

Did it also state something about "since 2005," there have been issues for rural community hospitals?

I know that some hospitals and even medical offices are changing the way things are done, including billing and quite a few hospitals and medical offices out here are now affiliated with or ran by an overseeing.....company....for lack of proper, official wording. Dignity Health, Abrazo, IMS, Banner...to name a few...are out here in AZ.

Not sure, however, if that would even play into any of it (with respect to the posted article) except some doctors have left hospitals and medical practices because of changes.

This story demonstrates another frightening sign of the times for women.

This combined with Idaho's attempt to interfere with trans kids and appropriate care, I wouldn't be surprised if more doctors leave the state. It's not worth the risk.

I recall in the early 2000s, when I was working in managed care, there weren't any of that specialty practicing in Nevada. It started as a shortage, then in addition malpractice insurance increased to unsustainable levels. Women had to drive out of state to give birth at that time. This type of thing has been going on for years, for various reasons.

Coeur d'Alene and Spokane are at least an hour away from Bonner. I had precipitous labor with my second son and he was born prematurely in less than an hour from when I went into labor. If I hadn’t given birth before, I likely would have brushed off the signs of early labor as indigestion and waited longer before going to the hospital. His lungs weren’t developed fully and he needed immediate assistance to breathe. If the closest hospital was an hour away, I wouldn’t have made it there and he wouldn’t have lived. He is now a healthy 11 year old whose only lasting effects are asthma and a hearing aid for one ear. I wonder how people who support these anti-abortion laws feel knowing that their fight to save a non viable 6 week fetus is going to end up killing actual babies.

AZOldCoot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:36 pm Did it also state something about "since 2005," there have been issues for rural community hospitals?

I know that some hospitals and even medical offices are changing the way things are done, including billing and quite a few hospitals and medical offices out here are now affiliated with or ran by an overseeing.....company....for lack of proper, official wording. Dignity Health, Abrazo, IMS, Banner...to name a few...are out here in AZ.

Not sure, however, if that would even play into any of it (with respect to the posted article) except some doctors have left hospitals and medical practices because of changes.

This story demonstrates another frightening sign of the times for women.

In other words, they've become private hospitals maybe? I've heard of that, too.

I would think that they would still have an emergency department. If a woman walks in literally crowning, I would think they would still help her and also schedule an ambulance to take her to a more appropriate hospital. Women just wouldn't be able to plan to give birth there or expect a specialist to be on duty. Either way, we all know a nurse will be catching that baby no matter what, LOL.

newyearnewring wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:21 am I would think that they would still have an emergency department. If a woman walks in literally crowning, I would think they would still help her and also schedule an ambulance to take her to a more appropriate hospital. Women just wouldn't be able to plan to give birth there or expect a specialist to be on duty. Either way, we all know a nurse will be catching that baby no matter what, LOL.

Yes, but that is assuming a pregnancy with no complications. If there are complications the woman would have to be air-lifted to another hospital......furthermore labor and delivery wings of hospitals do not just deal with labor and delivery but also miscarriages and that's where it becomes legally complicated with these abortion bans. The same medication used to induce and abortion is used to medicinally treat a miscarriage. The same surgical procedure of a D&C used in abortion services is used in miscarriage treatment when the body does not complete the miscarriage. These abortion restrictions don't just target abortion but ALL procedures/medications involved in abortion which are also used in management of miscarriages and other women's health services....now doctor's are at risk of losing their license for providing simple OBGYN healthcare to patients. THAT is why they are leaving.

Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:32 am

newyearnewring wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:21 am I would think that they would still have an emergency department. If a woman walks in literally crowning, I would think they would still help her and also schedule an ambulance to take her to a more appropriate hospital. Women just wouldn't be able to plan to give birth there or expect a specialist to be on duty. Either way, we all know a nurse will be catching that baby no matter what, LOL.

Yes, but that is assuming a pregnancy with no complications. If there are complications the woman would have to be air-lifted to another hospital......furthermore labor and delivery wings of hospitals do not just deal with labor and delivery but also miscarriages and that's where it becomes legally complicated with these abortion bans. The same medication used to induce and abortion is used to medicinally treat a miscarriage. The same surgical procedure of a D&C used in abortion services is used in miscarriage treatment when the body does not complete the miscarriage. These abortion restrictions don't just target abortion but ALL procedures/medications involved in abortion which are also used in management of miscarriages and other women's health services....now doctor's are at risk of losing their license for providing simple OBGYN healthcare to patients. THAT is why they are leaving.

Right, I understand.

newyearnewring wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:49 am

Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:32 am

newyearnewring wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:21 am I would think that they would still have an emergency department. If a woman walks in literally crowning, I would think they would still help her and also schedule an ambulance to take her to a more appropriate hospital. Women just wouldn't be able to plan to give birth there or expect a specialist to be on duty. Either way, we all know a nurse will be catching that baby no matter what, LOL.

Yes, but that is assuming a pregnancy with no complications. If there are complications the woman would have to be air-lifted to another hospital......furthermore labor and delivery wings of hospitals do not just deal with labor and delivery but also miscarriages and that's where it becomes legally complicated with these abortion bans. The same medication used to induce and abortion is used to medicinally treat a miscarriage. The same surgical procedure of a D&C used in abortion services is used in miscarriage treatment when the body does not complete the miscarriage. These abortion restrictions don't just target abortion but ALL procedures/medications involved in abortion which are also used in management of miscarriages and other women's health services....now doctor's are at risk of losing their license for providing simple OBGYN healthcare to patients. THAT is why they are leaving.

Right, I understand.

Ok good, because your previous response seemed to be rather "no big deal" and making a joke out of it when it's actually a very serious issue for not only the doctors in risking their licenses, but to their patients as well who will now have more limited options in regards to treatment and how this will disproportionately affect those in poor and rural communities who already have lack of transportation and services available to them. In short, we will see an increase in infant and maternal mortality rates as women will not have access to the care they need.