San Francisco could pay $5 million to each of its Black residents in reparations
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Kind of a useless comment.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:50 pmSMHLemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pmYou’ll hate this but the most damage done to Black Americans were Southern states. And they would have the easiest time going back in history not that long ago and see what land was stolen, who and what businesses used slaves and who has great+ grandparents who were slaves. Since the Southern states are currently trying to silence the violence and horrors of slavery in America it’s not going to happen.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:04 am I think cities/states pushing for reparations is a great way to push for a national solution, but it can get messy if it varies from city or state.
But this is still better than no conversation or movement at all, so kudos to San Francisco for that.
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No, your comment was out of line and so ignorant ..it’s not much to do but shake our heads.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:46 pmKind of a useless comment.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:50 pmSMHLemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pm
You’ll hate this but the most damage done to Black Americans were Southern states. And they would have the easiest time going back in history not that long ago and see what land was stolen, who and what businesses used slaves and who has great+ grandparents who were slaves. Since the Southern states are currently trying to silence the violence and horrors of slavery in America it’s not going to happen.
Are you honestly that oblivious to inappropriate that was?
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That’s why I am somewhat hesitant to comment on slave threads sometimes.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:50 pmSMHLemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pmYou’ll hate this but the most damage done to Black Americans were Southern states. And they would have the easiest time going back in history not that long ago and see what land was stolen, who and what businesses used slaves and who has great+ grandparents who were slaves. Since the Southern states are currently trying to silence the violence and horrors of slavery in America it’s not going to happen.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:04 am I think cities/states pushing for reparations is a great way to push for a national solution, but it can get messy if it varies from city or state.
But this is still better than no conversation or movement at all, so kudos to San Francisco for that.
Why would that be inappropriate?SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:13 pmNo, your comment was out of line and so ignorant ..it’s not much to do but shake our heads.
Are you honestly that oblivious to inappropriate that was?
People who had ancestors in states that had slavery were most impacted by slavery...
Obviously not all or even close to half, but some people can trace their ancestry back to certain plantations, my cousin has the exact place her grandmother was held.
There are certain businesses that are proven to have held and profited from slavery that still exist today... Holding them accountable more than innocent people isn't a bad idea.
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I’m a slave descendant from a “slave” state. Slavery affects me more than it does Black people in areas outside of the south and it has impacted Black families differently.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:42 pmWhy would that be inappropriate?SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:13 pmNo, your comment was out of line and so ignorant ..it’s not much to do but shake our heads.
Are you honestly that oblivious to inappropriate that was?
People who had ancestors in states that had slavery were most impacted by slavery...
Obviously not all or even close to half, but some people can trace their ancestry back to certain plantations, my cousin has the exact place her grandmother was held.
There are certain businesses that are proven to have held and profited from slavery that still exist today... Holding them accountable more than innocent people isn't a bad idea.
That’s just not true and I definitely don’t agree with using oppression Olympics as a determining factor in distributing reparations amongst the Black community based on region.
Lastly, pushing the notion that we (southern Black) had it worse, minimizes the racism and oppression in other areas.
As far as why I feel it is inappropriate, you can follow my Convo with Lemons so I don’t have to repeat the same talking points.
SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:55 pmI’m a slave descendant from a “slave” state. Slavery affects me more than it does Black people in areas outside of the south and it has impacted Black families differently.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:42 pmWhy would that be inappropriate?SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:13 pm
No, your comment was out of line and so ignorant ..it’s not much to do but shake our heads.
Are you honestly that oblivious to inappropriate that was?
People who had ancestors in states that had slavery were most impacted by slavery...
Obviously not all or even close to half, but some people can trace their ancestry back to certain plantations, my cousin has the exact place her grandmother was held.
There are certain businesses that are proven to have held and profited from slavery that still exist today... Holding them accountable more than innocent people isn't a bad idea.
That’s just not true and I definitely don’t agree with using oppression Olympics as a determining factor in distributing reparations amongst the Black community based on region.
Lastly, pushing the notion that we (southern Black) had it worse, minimizes the racism and oppression in other areas.
As far as why I feel it is inappropriate, you can follow my Convo with Lemons so I don’t have to repeat the same talking points.
Exactly though… slavery affects the dependents of those who were in slave states much differently than those from states where slavery didn’t exist.
Of course there are plenty of other people that have had racism impact their lives, but reparations are to help alleviate the damage that slavery did, not the damage from every kind of racism.
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I think what was done during the 1960s and 70s to the Black community of Filmore in San Francisco was pretty devastating which is probably why San Francisco feels that reparations to their Black community is appropriate.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pmYou’ll hate this but the most damage done to Black Americans were Southern states. And they would have the easiest time going back in history not that long ago and see what land was stolen, who and what businesses used slaves and who has great+ grandparents who were slaves. Since the Southern states are currently trying to silence the violence and horrors of slavery in America it’s not going to happen.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:04 am I think cities/states pushing for reparations is a great way to push for a national solution, but it can get messy if it varies from city or state.
But this is still better than no conversation or movement at all, so kudos to San Francisco for that.
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True. But why not discuss the easier verifiable damage done by the South. You don’t think Southern states and what they did deserves reputations? Not discussing it is exactly the goal of banning talking about these issues.WellPreserved wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:25 pmI think what was done during the 1960s and 70s to the Black community of Filmore in San Francisco was pretty devastating which is probably why San Francisco feels that reparations to their Black community is appropriate.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pmYou’ll hate this but the most damage done to Black Americans were Southern states. And they would have the easiest time going back in history not that long ago and see what land was stolen, who and what businesses used slaves and who has great+ grandparents who were slaves. Since the Southern states are currently trying to silence the violence and horrors of slavery in America it’s not going to happen.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:04 am I think cities/states pushing for reparations is a great way to push for a national solution, but it can get messy if it varies from city or state.
But this is still better than no conversation or movement at all, so kudos to San Francisco for that.
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I know the feeling. Imo, this is too complex of a subject to try to put it such simplistic terms.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:14 pmThat’s why I am somewhat hesitant to comment on slave threads sometimes.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:50 pmSMHLemons wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pm
You’ll hate this but the most damage done to Black Americans were Southern states. And they would have the easiest time going back in history not that long ago and see what land was stolen, who and what businesses used slaves and who has great+ grandparents who were slaves. Since the Southern states are currently trying to silence the violence and horrors of slavery in America it’s not going to happen.
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