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What do you consider easy?Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:58 pm That doesn’t mean the access isn’t still easy. It’s nice that it’s not as easy as it was before. It doesn’t mean it’s not easy now.
For now anyway. Idk what made this guy mentally unstable but he might not always been like that. Maybe once he could function in society. That’s the scary part.Carpy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:28 pmYou are more stable.Pjmm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:07 pmI’m angry too but you don’t see me walking into my workplace looking to die. To commit suicide is bad enough. To take people out with you is quite another and probably has nothing to do with DC. It has more to do with his workplace and his illness. Our problem is we do a lousy job keeping guns away from the mental ill. He may have been fine when he bought the gun but slowly got worse. Gun ownership should be like my professional license. Register every year or two, get tested at the gun range and maybe back ground check at intervals. And if your family member is losing it take his guns. I would and if he wanted to turn me in for theft fine. At least they’d be at the bottom of the nearest canal. But idk anything about this guy. It’s all so senseless.
Carpy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:59 pmWhat do you consider easy?Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:58 pm That doesn’t mean the access isn’t still easy. It’s nice that it’s not as easy as it was before. It doesn’t mean it’s not easy now.
Editing to add my dad walked into a hardware in 1927 and paid 50cents and walked out with his first gun. He was 12.
Pjmm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:47 pmFor now anyway. Idk what made this guy mentally unstable but he might not always been like that. Maybe once he could function in society. That’s the scary part.Carpy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:28 pmYou are more stable.Pjmm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:07 pm
I’m angry too but you don’t see me walking into my workplace looking to die. To commit suicide is bad enough. To take people out with you is quite another and probably has nothing to do with DC. It has more to do with his workplace and his illness. Our problem is we do a lousy job keeping guns away from the mental ill. He may have been fine when he bought the gun but slowly got worse. Gun ownership should be like my professional license. Register every year or two, get tested at the gun range and maybe back ground check at intervals. And if your family member is losing it take his guns. I would and if he wanted to turn me in for theft fine. At least they’d be at the bottom of the nearest canal. But idk anything about this guy. It’s all so senseless.
Does the United States have a much larger population of mentally ill people than the rest of the world? Because this isn’t happening in any other country.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:17 pm
Sounds more like from a place of hate and anger, but that can lead to or be a symptom of mental illness I guess.
This guy had a seriously fucked up childhood. I can see an angry adult from that. But 3 - 5% of how many violent acts?Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:16 pmDoes the United States have a much larger population of mentally ill people than the rest of the world? Because this isn’t happening in any other country.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:17 pm
Sounds more like from a place of hate and anger, but that can lead to or be a symptom of mental illness I guess.
According to the government site on mental health (and anywhere else)
“ Most people with mental illness are not violent and only 3%–5% of violent acts can be attributed to individuals living with a serious mental illness. In fact, people with severe mental illnesses are over 10 times more likely to be victims of violent crime than the general population.”
If gun violence was only committed by someone with a mental illness you would think the country would guarantee treatment for anyone needing it.
https://www.mentalhealth.gov/basics/men ... yths-facts
All violent acts committed. If there were 100 violent acts committed then between 3 to 5 of them were committed by people with mental illness.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:23 pmThis guy had a seriously fucked up childhood. I can see an angry adult from that. But 3 - 5% of how many violent acts?Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:16 pmDoes the United States have a much larger population of mentally ill people than the rest of the world? Because this isn’t happening in any other country.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:17 pm
Sounds more like from a place of hate and anger, but that can lead to or be a symptom of mental illness I guess.
According to the government site on mental health (and anywhere else)
“ Most people with mental illness are not violent and only 3%–5% of violent acts can be attributed to individuals living with a serious mental illness. In fact, people with severe mental illnesses are over 10 times more likely to be victims of violent crime than the general population.”
If gun violence was only committed by someone with a mental illness you would think the country would guarantee treatment for anyone needing it.
https://www.mentalhealth.gov/basics/men ... yths-facts
I understand the math. I'm asking how many "violent acts" were recorded in total.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:47 pmAll violent acts committed. If there were 100 violent acts committed then between 3 to 5 of them were committed by people with mental illness.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:23 pmThis guy had a seriously fucked up childhood. I can see an angry adult from that. But 3 - 5% of how many violent acts?Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:16 pm
Does the United States have a much larger population of mentally ill people than the rest of the world? Because this isn’t happening in any other country.
According to the government site on mental health (and anywhere else)
“ Most people with mental illness are not violent and only 3%–5% of violent acts can be attributed to individuals living with a serious mental illness. In fact, people with severe mental illnesses are over 10 times more likely to be victims of violent crime than the general population.”
If gun violence was only committed by someone with a mental illness you would think the country would guarantee treatment for anyone needing it.
https://www.mentalhealth.gov/basics/men ... yths-facts
There’s a study I’ll linked that states “. Overall, the population-attributable risk fraction of patients was 5%, suggesting that patients with severe mental illness commit one in 20 violent crimes.“
That means we would have 19 out of every.20 violent crimes committed by people without illness.
Even though it’s uncommon with people who have mental illness to commit violence, some factors that would contribute to violence would be substance use, childhood abuse, untreated major trauma issues.
You’re right, his seriously fucked up childhood must have pushed him over the edge.
But the cases that get all the news coverage makes it seem like all gun murders are caused by mental illness and that’s far from true. Pro gun people and lawmakers say “mental illness” is the problem all the time but there’s been nothing done and gun violence is only getting worse.
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10 ... 163.8.1397