Imagine this… a 2024 election, with both presidential candidates under investigation.

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Trump followers saying all the charges are bullshit…

Biden followers saying all the charges are bullshit…



But from the outside looking in… both your candidates are under investigation and the winner will be a crook.





Maybe we should figure out a way to get two new people into the race at this point before the above is our reality.
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Under investigation doesn't equal guilt and to date, neither Biden nor Trump have been charged with a crime.
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BobCobbMagob wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:19 am Trump followers saying all the charges are bullshit…

Biden followers saying all the charges are bullshit…



But from the outside looking in… both your candidates are under investigation and the winner will be a crook.





Maybe we should figure out a way to get two new people into the race at this point before the above is our reality.
Who are these those "from the outside" that we need to care about?

At this point the voters have had experience with each of these potential candidates holding office. I think we can judge for ourselves how they governed, and if they acted in the best interests of the country.
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MonarchMom wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:27 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:19 am Trump followers saying all the charges are bullshit…

Biden followers saying all the charges are bullshit…



But from the outside looking in… both your candidates are under investigation and the winner will be a crook.





Maybe we should figure out a way to get two new people into the race at this point before the above is our reality.
Who are these those "from the outside" that we need to care about?

At this point the voters have had experience with each of these potential candidates holding office. I think we can judge for ourselves how they governed, and if they acted in the best interests of the country.
Everyone else in the rest of the world…

Some people like to save face… we might look a bit less looney if we go with candidates that are respectable.
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BobCobbMagob wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:14 am
MonarchMom wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:27 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:19 am Trump followers saying all the charges are bullshit…

Biden followers saying all the charges are bullshit…



But from the outside looking in… both your candidates are under investigation and the winner will be a crook.





Maybe we should figure out a way to get two new people into the race at this point before the above is our reality.
Who are these those "from the outside" that we need to care about?

At this point the voters have had experience with each of these potential candidates holding office. I think we can judge for ourselves how they governed, and if they acted in the best interests of the country.
Everyone else in the rest of the world…

Some people like to save face… we might look a bit less looney if we go with candidates that are respectable.
For the most part that seems to be the consensus from the mid-terms.
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Again ... 337 million humans in this glorious nation of ours ... And this is the best we have to offer? It just boggles my mind.
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I don't see you running.

Yes it would be nice if we had respectable candidates on BOTH sides running. However the reality is that the last semi respectable candidates we had were Obama and McCain and we know how that went. Had McCain chosen a different running mate then I have no doubt he would have won because his running mate was the start of the looney candidate trend.

I don't know why the looney candidates started getting elected. Maybe it's a reflection of the lacking education in the US. Maybe it's a continuation of our collective fascination with reality TV. Maybe because the looney's garner more attention and they're working off the principle of "bad publicity is still good publicity'. But until the parties start putting forth better candidates the people are stuck between choosing the lesser of two evils

However from my perspective one party is putting out far more looney's than the other.
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It is terrifying that we may have to have a do over of the 2020 election. There was an insurrection attempt last time, I’m worried what’ll happen if trump loses again. They should’ve convicted him so he couldn’t run again.
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If there is any conspiracy theory rabbit hole I may go in, it is that these candidates are not our best, but they are by design. Are we electing loonies because our system is broken? Or is our system breaking because we are electing loonies? Or are they turning looney because our system is so corrupt? Has the two party system ever really worked? And by what are we measuring this?

I'm not advocating for anything but I just don't think we can work our way out of this. There are too many factors at play and too many people who benefit from us getting nowhere. I think we're doomed.
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Would love for the US to have the legal and Constitutional rights to tell both Biden and Trump that they had their chances as POTUS but now is the time wipe the slate clean. Good luck, have a great life, and good riddance!
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