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There is a book called "The Encounter" by Malachi Martin from 1970. He claimed that religion is dying and the three major religions cannot co-exist with each other.
Some exports from the book review:

“When we examine the modem environment of man in which Judaism, Christianity and Islam find themselves, it is abundantly clear that these three religions are finished as major influences,” By definition, they’ lack the means of accommodating one another. "

He describes it as man gyrating in an enclosed whirlpool of lethally opposed drives, interests and instinct. The book goes into detail of the three major religions' histories and why he thinks they are not good for modern man.

On Judaism: "Essential differences separate normative Judaism and Israeli Judaism. One is God-centered, God-justified, God-preserved, God- exalted, oriented to the visible world. The other is self-justified, self-preserved, self-exalted, self-centered, oriented to the visible world. For this reason the claims of Israeli Judaism should actually be decided.

On Christianity: "History has taught us that Christians are capable of behaving like people without any religious principles precisely in order to further Christianity. The words remain Christian, the actions are unchristian. The total result is catastrophic . "

On Islam: "Nasser (former Egyptian leader in the 50's and 60's who called the Muslim Brotherhood malevolent terrorists) has found that classical Islam is incompatible with a modern constitutional state. Also incompatible with modern dictators bent on obtaining new territories and power. "

Fifty years later we haven't got much closer to understanding that maybe religion is a problem.

It's interesting to read old news articles from the 50's and 60's. It was 1966 when the Times magazine had the cover Is God Dead? Maybe



https://www.nytimes.com/1970/03/09/arch ... ailed.html
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Obviously he was wrong. So not even a smart hater. And soooo ignorant to add.
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They can’t really co-exist eventually in the future because as soon as the messiah comes for the Judaic religion, the Christian religion will think he’s the anti-Christ.
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I do think eventually our world will evolve to a place where we don't need religion anymore and therefore religion doesn't exist. I also think it's going to take a lot more time to get there. We've just begun the journey. We are no where near the end.
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Traci_Momof2 wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:19 pm I do think eventually our world will evolve to a place where we don't need religion anymore and therefore religion doesn't exist. I also think it's going to take a lot more time to get there. We've just begun the journey. We are no where near the end.
I agree. I think faith will continue to exist but religious affiliation won't. Rise of the none's.
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In moving away from supernatural explanations, we have thrown out the baby with the bathwater. The real strength of religion is providing a moral community to grow in.

I think in the future there could be many new religions, based not on supernatural claims, but on fellowship, mutual aid, celebration and a shared quest for transcendence.
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Provided that those who practice a specific religion (and I'm not only referring to Christians) do not force their beliefs on others as they've done for so long, l do feel religions and those who don't follow one can coexist.

It's called mutual respect for the diversity in this world that goes beyond cultural, political, and social differences.

We have a long way to go and a lot of work to do to get there.
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AZOldCoot wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:59 pm Provided that those who practice a specific religion (and I'm not only referring to Christians) do not force their beliefs on others as they've done for so long, l do feel religions and those who don't follow one can coexist.

It's called mutual respect for the diversity in this world that goes beyond cultural, political, and social differences.

We have a long way to go and a lot of work to do to get there.
I'm not religious so perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't one of the tenants of most religions conversion? I mean, can you be Christian (even mainline Christian denominations) and not care if others believe as you do? Perhaps in some of the denominations like Quaker and Unitarian which are seeing record numbers of followers but if we look at religion as a "business", they need adherents to survive.

Personally, I feel that religious institutions who offer guidance and support for their entire community without exclusivity will survive. Those that try to remain exclusive, won't. I'm not going to see change in my life-time but maybe my kids?
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WellPreserved wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:17 pm
AZOldCoot wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:59 pm Provided that those who practice a specific religion (and I'm not only referring to Christians) do not force their beliefs on others as they've done for so long, l do feel religions and those who don't follow one can coexist.

It's called mutual respect for the diversity in this world that goes beyond cultural, political, and social differences.

We have a long way to go and a lot of work to do to get there.
I'm not religious so perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't one of the tenants of most religions conversion? I mean, can you be Christian (even mainline Christian denominations) and not care if others believe as you do? Perhaps in some of the denominations like Quaker and Unitarian which are seeing record numbers of followers but if we look at religion as a "business", they need adherents to survive.

Personally, I feel that religious institutions who offer guidance and support for their entire community without exclusivity will survive. Those that try to remain exclusive, won't. I'm not going to see change in my life-time but maybe my kids?
I, myself, am a Christian Unitarian and I've often wondered if I have always been so. I was raised in a Pentecostal Evangelical home though my late dad grew very disenchanted by what he viewed as corruption, hypocrisy, and exclusivity among those in his church that he had attended.

As a Unitarian, I feel that everyone has a right to believe in what they wish to...or don't believe in.

Yes, there are many Christians who feel that everyone must only follow the "good book," and live life as they believe god designed it. However, there are many others who simply want to be allowed to worship as they choose to and not be mocked and ridiculed for it.

I've found that many self-described "free thinkers" in this world are some of the least free thinking individual's on the planet UNLESS you agree with them.

Unless someone or many are choke-holding others to "do as the bible tells you to," they should be free to believe as they do and as they find it useful and beneficial in their own lives.
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In some religions, yes. Judaism, for example, makes conversion very hard. It’s a long and very hard process for the one wishing to convert.
I know there are also Christian denominations that aren’t involved in proselytizing.
WellPreserved wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:17 pm
AZOldCoot wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:59 pm Provided that those who practice a specific religion (and I'm not only referring to Christians) do not force their beliefs on others as they've done for so long, l do feel religions and those who don't follow one can coexist.

It's called mutual respect for the diversity in this world that goes beyond cultural, political, and social differences.

We have a long way to go and a lot of work to do to get there.
I'm not religious so perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't one of the tenants of most religions conversion? I mean, can you be Christian (even mainline Christian denominations) and not care if others believe as you do? Perhaps in some of the denominations like Quaker and Unitarian which are seeing record numbers of followers but if we look at religion as a "business", they need adherents to survive.

Personally, I feel that religious institutions who offer guidance and support for their entire community without exclusivity will survive. Those that try to remain exclusive, won't. I'm not going to see change in my life-time but maybe my kids?
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