Rep. Lauren Boebert said humanity is in its 'last days' and Christians should 'rise up,' invoking Christian nationalist

[Deleted User 1990]

Genocide is supported in the Bible depending on the sins of those you’re going to attack. Not just supported, but punished for by not committing fully…

The reason King Saul was punished by God and stripped of his kingdom is because he didn’t fully commit genocide on the next door neighbor.


Even Jesus Christ said he didn’t come to bring peace, but to bring a sword, cutting apart the believers and punishing non believers…

“ Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”
And what is Jesus? Life.

So much murder destruction violence ugliness. I’ve never read it but I never thought it was that bad.

Between Muslims using their holy book to murder and destroy and Christians using their holy book to try and force people to follow their beliefs, it’s too bad these books aren’t the one banned.

[Lemons]

Genocide is supported in the Bible depending on the sins of those you’re going to attack. Not just supported, but punished for by not committing fully…

The reason King Saul was punished by God and stripped of his kingdom is because he didn’t fully commit genocide on the next door neighbor.


Even Jesus Christ said he didn’t come to bring peace, but to bring a sword, cutting apart the believers and punishing non believers…

“ Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”
And what is Jesus? Life.

So much murder destruction violence ugliness. I’ve never read it but I never thought it was that bad.

Between Muslims using their holy book to murder and destroy and Christians using their holy book to try and force people to follow their beliefs, it’s too bad these books aren’t the one banned.

So why do people still worship this violent book with contradictory messages?

[Lemons]

Weren’t those quotes bob put up from the Bible?

The Bible?

So much murder destruction violence ugliness. I’ve never read it but I never thought it was that bad.

Between Muslims using their holy book to murder and destroy and Christians using their holy book to try and force people to follow their beliefs, it’s too bad these books aren’t the one banned.

[Lemons]

Can you expand on this please?

The Russian/Ukrainian war has nothing to do with religion, stating or inferring it is while quoting scripture doesn’t change the fact that religion had nothing to do with why it was initiated, therefore could hardly be considered a holy war despite what Kirill implies. To go a step further, are not the inhumanities that have been done throughout history in the name of Christianity a betrayal to the religion? Especially when many of these were more for secular gains than religious zealous?

You can’t betray Christianity by quoting the Bible and using the same type of speeches that have been used since the formation of the church itself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/war/just/i ... tion.shtml
https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-war.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/just-war-theory.html

https://ethosinstitute.sg/can-anyone-ju ... rspective/

https://comment.org/the-old-testament-h ... -morality/

Anyone can take scripture out of context to justify their goals or mission or whatever. That does not mean it is right or Christian. All denominations have different views on several different topics, but a widely accepted view among them is the “just war” theory.

Just war says if it’s in defense it’s just. That means the aggressor is never just.

[Deleted User 1990]

Genocide is supported in the Bible depending on the sins of those you’re going to attack. Not just supported, but punished for by not committing fully…

The reason King Saul was punished by God and stripped of his kingdom is because he didn’t fully commit genocide on the next door neighbor.


Even Jesus Christ said he didn’t come to bring peace, but to bring a sword, cutting apart the believers and punishing non believers…

“ Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”
And what is Jesus? Life.

So much murder destruction violence ugliness. I’ve never read it but I never thought it was that bad.

Between Muslims using their holy book to murder and destroy and Christians using their holy book to try and force people to follow their beliefs, it’s too bad these books aren’t the one banned.

So why do people still worship this violent book with contradictory messages?

I would say there are more humans on earth that see logic behind some forms of violence than strict pacifists.

[Deleted User 1990]

Can you expand on this please?

The Russian/Ukrainian war has nothing to do with religion, stating or inferring it is while quoting scripture doesn’t change the fact that religion had nothing to do with why it was initiated, therefore could hardly be considered a holy war despite what Kirill implies. To go a step further, are not the inhumanities that have been done throughout history in the name of Christianity a betrayal to the religion? Especially when many of these were more for secular gains than religious zealous?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/war/just/i ... tion.shtml
https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-war.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/just-war-theory.html

https://ethosinstitute.sg/can-anyone-ju ... rspective/

https://comment.org/the-old-testament-h ... -morality/

Anyone can take scripture out of context to justify their goals or mission or whatever. That does not mean it is right or Christian. All denominations have different views on several different topics, but a widely accepted view among them is the “just war” theory.

Just war says if it’s in defense it’s just. That means the aggressor is never just.

Technically that’s not true.

The Bible says that land held by your ancestors is yours and can be fought over with God being on your side.
The land Putin is fighting over was a part of Russia at one point, and his church leader translated the Bible to mean he is righteous in taking it back. The way to take it back is biblically , validated with violence and death.

[mommy_jules]

Can you expand on this please?

The Russian/Ukrainian war has nothing to do with religion, stating or inferring it is while quoting scripture doesn’t change the fact that religion had nothing to do with why it was initiated, therefore could hardly be considered a holy war despite what Kirill implies. To go a step further, are not the inhumanities that have been done throughout history in the name of Christianity a betrayal to the religion? Especially when many of these were more for secular gains than religious zealous?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/war/just/i ... tion.shtml
https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-war.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/just-war-theory.html

https://ethosinstitute.sg/can-anyone-ju ... rspective/

https://comment.org/the-old-testament-h ... -morality/

Anyone can take scripture out of context to justify their goals or mission or whatever. That does not mean it is right or Christian. All denominations have different views on several different topics, but a widely accepted view among them is the “just war” theory.

Just war says if it’s in defense it’s just. That means the aggressor is never just.

More or less. Obviously not all agree. Some like Quakers and the Amish are straight up pacifist, and others are well the opposite, I suppose. As to your other question and never reading the Bible. Here’s a short video that I think would help with both at least from my perspective

http://bibleproject.com/videos/the-story-of-the-bible

[Lemons]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/war/just/i ... tion.shtml
https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-war.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/just-war-theory.html

https://ethosinstitute.sg/can-anyone-ju ... rspective/

https://comment.org/the-old-testament-h ... -morality/

Anyone can take scripture out of context to justify their goals or mission or whatever. That does not mean it is right or Christian. All denominations have different views on several different topics, but a widely accepted view among them is the “just war” theory.

Just war says if it’s in defense it’s just. That means the aggressor is never just.

Technically that’s not true.

The Bible says that land held by your ancestors is yours and can be fought over with God being on your side.
The land Putin is fighting over was a part of Russia at one point, and his church leader translated the Bible to mean he is righteous in taking it back. The way to take it back is biblically , validated with violence and death.

Interesting. Putin wants the Soviet Union back. Anything that helps he’ll use. He’s not religious.

It reminds of a debate I saw once between Israelis and Palestinians with Israel using that argument. Palestinians said they didn’t realize God was a real estate agent. But they go way back claiming they were there first. African countries are still constantly changing borders, most recently adding South Sudan as a new country. A lot of people destroyed over these land fights. So stupid

[WellPreserved]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/war/just/i ... tion.shtml
https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-war.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/just-war-theory.html

https://ethosinstitute.sg/can-anyone-ju ... rspective/

https://comment.org/the-old-testament-h ... -morality/

Anyone can take scripture out of context to justify their goals or mission or whatever. That does not mean it is right or Christian. All denominations have different views on several different topics, but a widely accepted view among them is the “just war” theory.

Just war says if it’s in defense it’s just. That means the aggressor is never just.

Technically that’s not true.

The Bible says that land held by your ancestors is yours and can be fought over with God being on your side.
The land Putin is fighting over was a part of Russia at one point, and his church leader translated the Bible to mean he is righteous in taking it back. The way to take it back is biblically , validated with violence and death.

Does that include land taken by colonialism and/or conquest where the people of that land are ethnically and religiously different from the conquering territory?

[Deleted User 1990]

Just war says if it’s in defense it’s just. That means the aggressor is never just.

Technically that’s not true.

The Bible says that land held by your ancestors is yours and can be fought over with God being on your side.
The land Putin is fighting over was a part of Russia at one point, and his church leader translated the Bible to mean he is righteous in taking it back. The way to take it back is biblically , validated with violence and death.

Does that include land taken by colonialism and/or conquest where the people of that land are ethnically and religiously different from the conquering territory?

If they're religiously different , there's scripture to support the notion that they're supposed to take it over.