DeSantis is a piece of shit

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I get the points they're ( Ducey, Abbott, and Desantis) trying to make but I despise how they're going about it with using human beings as political pawns.
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mommy_jules wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:37 pm
Really good thread. Thanks for posting!
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Lexy wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:18 am
DSamuels wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:58 am
WellPreserved wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:33 am

If the goal is to send migrants to sanctuary cities, why isn't Texas or Florida sending migrants to sanctuary cities and counties in neighboring states?

A few hundred? Almost 8000 migrants have been bussed to DC and 9000 to NYC.

It's all a gross, inhumane, and expensive publicity stunt meant to throw their base some cookies.
Those numbers are since spring. Texas gets that many EACH DAY. How in the hell are they supposed to process, house and provide for that amount? And all the administration says is that the border is secure.
"...The island doesn't have the resources to help them long-term...". What city/county/state does? That's the point of these deliveries, sharing the pain, and making people aware of the impacts of the Brandon administration's open border policy.
That’s a weak argument for Republicans using humans for partisan their partisan stunts. Although I do think the Martha’s Vineyard group are the lucky ones. They are better off in Massachusetts than Texas.

It’s just the hateful spite instead of reasonably going to the federal government and saying we need to come up with a solution now and we aren’t leaving until we do.

There’s been a ton of news about worker shortages, especially in restaurants, nursing homes, retail. Entry level type jobs that have usually been filled by new immigrants. Why not work with the states that are neediest, places where the elderly are at risk because they don’t have the care they need, and come up with a plan.
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SallyMae wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:15 pm
Lexy wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:18 am
"...The island doesn't have the resources to help them long-term...". What city/county/state does? That's the point of these deliveries, sharing the pain, and making people aware of the impacts of the Brandon administration's open border policy.
Biden’s Border Policy Is Not “Open Borders”
https://www.cato.org/blog/bidens-border ... en-borders
Practically since his first week in office, President Joe Biden has faced repeated criticisms from Republicans and some Democrats that his border policy amounts to “open borders.” This criticism is not simply inaccurate: it is unhinged from reality in a way that distinguishes itself from normal political hyperbole. Indeed, U.S. immigration policy is effectively closed borders, and Biden’s immigration policies and goals are largely the same as those of President Donald Trump.
Yes, people are coming in illegally, but it's not Brandon's policies, he deports more people than Trump did.
The Biden administration has smashed all records for immediate expulsions without due process, increasing the rate from 62,000 per month under Trump to about 100,000
You must take your cues on gaslighting from the man behind the curtain.
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Carpy wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:04 am You must take your cues on gaslighting from the man behind the curtain.
What do you know? You can't explain it. You can't discuss it. I have no reason to think you understand it at all.

If there is anything at all to your politics besides constant sniping, I'd be interested to hear it. Dare you?
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I have been looking into the immigration issue. There are some serious policy solutions proposed:

1. Rethink Amnesty.

Right now amnesty takes years and officials on the scene do not have the authority to make the decision. We should get many more adjudicators with more authority to quickly decide if there is reasonable "cause for fear" on amnesty claims. The time for refusal should be reduced to months, not years, and this would discourage people from waiting around the border for years for a decision. Quick refusal also discourages people from traveling a long way to try.


2. Strengthen immigration institutions.

Our current border infrastructure was created mainly to deal with single adults, now they have to deal with large numbers of families and unaccompanied minors. Border facilities should be designed to accommodate this new reality, and avoiding unsafe holding conditions should be a top priority.


3. Address smuggling networks regionally.

Smuggling and trafficking operations are increasingly sophisticated, and there is no coordinated effort to combat them across national borders. The U.S., Mexico and the governments of Central and South America need to share intelligence and strategically coordinate their enforcement to counter organized crime.


4. Create Legal Pathways for Migration

Studies have shown that easier paths to legal immigration, and more opportunities for legally working in the U.S., persuade people to go the legal route instead of immigrating illegally. We have labor shortages all over this country and making it easier for people to fill those roles incentivizes the legal path.


5. Investing in development and public security

The world has to coordinate efforts to make conditions in the global south as livable as those in the north. Intense international investment in sustainable politics, economics and environmental restoration will reduce the pressure on people to leave home. We need to start taking care of people where they are.



Strategic Solutions for the United States and Mexico to Manage the Migration Crisis
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/news/st ... ion-crisis
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Hasn’t the Biden Administration been flying migrants who came here illegally to other states in the middle of the night without notifying those jurisdictions - for like a year? Seems it’s the same thing.
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KnotaDinghy wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:24 pm Hasn’t the Biden Administration been flying migrants who came here illegally to other states in the middle of the night without notifying those jurisdictions - for like a year? Seems it’s the same thing.
Not really.

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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... s-cities-/

• The federal government transports adult detainees in its custody from one facility to another, or from one U.S. city to another during deportation proceedings.

• The vast majority of people on the flights are unaccompanied minors who crossed the border, requested asylum under immigration law, and are being released from federal custody to a parent or sponsor.

• Some of these flights happen at night, but they are not covert operations. The same types of flights were done by the Trump administration.
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