Only in the US do we think that arguing over which local area has the most murders by gun is a productive conversation.
We far exceed any other wealthy county in both gun ownership and gun violence. Not even a close comparison. Yet instead of addressing the high rates of violence Americans face we are encouraged to see each other as the problem, rather than find a solution.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how ... -countries
Republicans insist most gun violence happens in Democratic cities –
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It is an argument is because too many people are using cities like Chicago to push a narrative and we can’t find a solution of the problem isn’t correctly defined. That said, that conversation can’t move forward until people stop doing that and interpret the numbers correctly because the answers are there plain as day.MonarchMom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:28 am Only in the US do we think that arguing over which local area has the most murders by gun is a productive conversation.
We far exceed any other wealthy county in both gun ownership and gun violence. Not even a close comparison. Yet instead of addressing the high rates of violence Americans face we are encouraged to see each other as the problem, rather than find a solution.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how ... -countries
I agree that we should look at what other countries are doing but the conversation about crime is also necessary because it’s a huge problem.
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Maybe we need to know why there are such discrepancies between different sections of the country. Why some populations have things pretty much in control and some don’t.MonarchMom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:28 am Only in the US do we think that arguing over which local area has the most murders by gun is a productive conversation.
We far exceed any other wealthy county in both gun ownership and gun violence. Not even a close comparison. Yet instead of addressing the high rates of violence Americans face we are encouraged to see each other as the problem, rather than find a solution.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/how ... -countries
It is an American problem but we are not solving it as Americans. It becomes all about states rights. Republican candidates pose for pictures with guns. Democrat candidates promise to confiscate guns. I don’t see the country solving this problem together anytime soon. The gulf between the the states gets wider every year.
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Lol @ that list Montana and Wyoming have more cattle than people
Gun deaths dont always equal violence. There are accidents and suicides ( unless you want to count suicide in with violence fine,) its just not violence towards other people and does not fit the agenda against guns because of these mass shooters and gun crimes against others. People with an agenda would definitely use a state like Alaska with a high suicide rate to cover their agenda, of course!
Gun deaths dont always equal violence. There are accidents and suicides ( unless you want to count suicide in with violence fine,) its just not violence towards other people and does not fit the agenda against guns because of these mass shooters and gun crimes against others. People with an agenda would definitely use a state like Alaska with a high suicide rate to cover their agenda, of course!
BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:24 am Where do people get murdered more often, Montana or New York City?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:10 amIf you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:58 am Lol except when it comes down to the amount of people that get killed…
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-stateThe following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.
Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. These states also have the lowest gun ownership in the United States. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest gun ownership rate of 14.7%, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%, Hawaii with 14.9%, and New York with 19.9%. These five states are the only state to have gun ownership rates below 20%.