Republicans insist most gun violence happens in Democratic cities – the figures tell a different story
Conservatives like to paint Democratic states as crime-ridden warzones, but gun violence is worse in red
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 29435.html
Republicans insist most gun violence happens in Democratic cities –
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Lol except when it comes down to the amount of people that get killed…
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
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If you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:58 am Lol except when it comes down to the amount of people that get killed…
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-stateThe following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.
Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. These states also have the lowest gun ownership in the United States. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest gun ownership rate of 14.7%, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%, Hawaii with 14.9%, and New York with 19.9%. These five states are the only state to have gun ownership rates below 20%.
Where do people get murdered more often, Montana or New York City?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:10 amIf you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:58 am Lol except when it comes down to the amount of people that get killed…
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-stateThe following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.
Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. These states also have the lowest gun ownership in the United States. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest gun ownership rate of 14.7%, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%, Hawaii with 14.9%, and New York with 19.9%. These five states are the only state to have gun ownership rates below 20%.
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Ah see you're talking two different things. The post was about gun violence not MURDER. However when you look at the states with the highest murder rate it should be no surprise that red states also top the list. Here are the 10 states with the highest murder rate:BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:24 am Where do people get murdered more often, Montana or New York City?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:10 amIf you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:58 am Lol except when it comes down to the amount of people that get killed…
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-stateThe following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.
Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. These states also have the lowest gun ownership in the United States. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest gun ownership rate of 14.7%, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%, Hawaii with 14.9%, and New York with 19.9%. These five states are the only state to have gun ownership rates below 20%.
Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
Maryland (9 per 100k)
Arkansas (8.6 per 100k)
Alaska (8.4 per 100k)
Alabama (8.3 per 100k)
Mississippi (8.2 per 100k)
Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
South Carolina (7.8 per 100k)
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... e-by-state
Whether those were committed with guns or not is not stated.
So sorry. All statistics are consistent in more access to guns = more gun violence and more firearm mortalities regardless of them being self inflicted or carried out against another person. You need to stop cherry picking statistics. It will never turn out in your favor.
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And here's a handy little page showing specifically Homicides committed using GUNS by state....
https://www.criminalattorneycincinnati. ... -by-state/
Notice another trend with red states?
These are the 10 states with the highest firearm homicide rates in the country along with their gun-friendliness scores:
Louisiana: 11.0 (3)
Mississippi: 10.2 (5)
Alabama: 9.5 (4)
Missouri: 8.5 (5)
Maryland: 7.4 (1)
South Carolina: 7.4 (3)
Tennessee: 6.7 (4)
Illinois: 6.5 (2)
Arkansas: 6.2 (3)
Georgia: 6.2 (4)
https://www.criminalattorneycincinnati. ... -by-state/
Notice another trend with red states?
These are the 10 states with the highest firearm homicide rates in the country along with their gun-friendliness scores:
Louisiana: 11.0 (3)
Mississippi: 10.2 (5)
Alabama: 9.5 (4)
Missouri: 8.5 (5)
Maryland: 7.4 (1)
South Carolina: 7.4 (3)
Tennessee: 6.7 (4)
Illinois: 6.5 (2)
Arkansas: 6.2 (3)
Georgia: 6.2 (4)
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Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:38 am And here's a handy little page showing specifically Homicides committed using GUNS by state....
https://www.criminalattorneycincinnati. ... -by-state/
Notice another trend with red states?
These are the 10 states with the highest firearm homicide rates in the country along with their gun-friendliness scores:
Louisiana: 11.0 (3)
Mississippi: 10.2 (5)
Alabama: 9.5 (4)
Missouri: 8.5 (5)
Maryland: 7.4 (1)
South Carolina: 7.4 (3)
Tennessee: 6.7 (4)
Illinois: 6.5 (2)
Arkansas: 6.2 (3)
Georgia: 6.2 (4)
On Asher's list, New Orleans has a murder rate of 36.8 per capita so far this year, followed by Baltimore at a rate of 29.1; Birmingham at a rate of 29.1, St. Louis at a rate of 27.8, Milwaukee at a rate of 19, Cleveland at a rate of 16.9, Rochester at a rate of 16.6, Philadelphia at a rate of 15.1, Atlanta at a rate of 14.9, and Kansas City, Missouri at a rate of 14.6. These numbers only reflect murder numbers halfway through 2022 and are subject to change[/quote]
https://www.foxnews.com/us/emerging-cri ... per-capita
Lol… what is the title of the post again?Baconqueen13 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:35 amAh see you're talking two different things. The post was about gun violence not MURDER. However when you look at the states with the highest murder rate it should be no surprise that red states also top the list. Here are the 10 states with the highest murder rate:BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:24 am Where do people get murdered more often, Montana or New York City?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:10 am
If you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-state
Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
Maryland (9 per 100k)
Arkansas (8.6 per 100k)
Alaska (8.4 per 100k)
Alabama (8.3 per 100k)
Mississippi (8.2 per 100k)
Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
South Carolina (7.8 per 100k)
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... e-by-state
Whether those were committed with guns or not is not stated.
So sorry. All statistics are consistent in more access to guns = more gun violence and more firearm mortalities regardless of them being self inflicted or carried out against another person. You need to stop cherry picking statistics. It will never turn out in your favor.
Louisiana, murder rate capital : New Orleans, democratic run.
Missouri , murder rate capital, St. Louis , democratic run
Nevada : MRC Vegas; democratic run
Maryland : MRC Baltimore; democratic run
Arkansas : MRC Little Rock; democrats again…
Alaska : MRC Anchorage, surprise surprise… trending blue!
Should we keep going?
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As a person who has experienced a suicide death in the family I can tell you that is much more of a worry to me and many others than someone wanting my shirt. And in my small town there have been children maimed and killed by access to unsecured firearms.
Not sure what you mean by "spinning reality" - more people will generally mean more incidents of all types that are related to behavior. That will include assault, robbery, murder, accidents, domestic violence, etc. What the statistics show is the larger the percentage of gun ownership in the population the more likely you will experience gun violence.
Not sure what you mean by "spinning reality" - more people will generally mean more incidents of all types that are related to behavior. That will include assault, robbery, murder, accidents, domestic violence, etc. What the statistics show is the larger the percentage of gun ownership in the population the more likely you will experience gun violence.
BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:24 am Where do people get murdered more often, Montana or New York City?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:10 amIf you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:58 am Lol except when it comes down to the amount of people that get killed…
But, but, but… if we do math this way, then carry the 1, then ignore a few other facts and look at just these numbers, democrat run cities look safer!!
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-stateThe following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.
Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. These states also have the lowest gun ownership in the United States. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest gun ownership rate of 14.7%, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%, Hawaii with 14.9%, and New York with 19.9%. These five states are the only state to have gun ownership rates below 20%.
I guess it comes down to what people worry about then.
There’s things each individual has full control of, and things an individual has no control of.
In Red places you have to worry about yourself , in Blue places you have to worry about other people.
There’s things each individual has full control of, and things an individual has no control of.
In Red places you have to worry about yourself , in Blue places you have to worry about other people.
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:38 am As a person who has experienced a suicide death in the family I can tell you that is much more of a worry to me and many others than someone wanting my shirt. And in my small town there have been children maimed and killed by access to unsecured firearms.
Not sure what you mean by "spinning reality" - more people will generally mean more incidents of all types that are related to behavior. That will include assault, robbery, murder, accidents, domestic violence, etc. What the statistics show is the larger the percentage of gun ownership in the population the more likely you will experience gun violence.
BobCobbMagob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:24 am Where do people get murdered more often, Montana or New York City?
Where is the place where you have to actually worry about it… the place where people kill themselves or have hunting accidents, or the place where some random dude might shoot you because he wants your shit? Because I can give you some tips that will 100% of the time keep you safe from suicide and hunting accidents… legit crime though, I dunno…
Is it totally a coincidence that the top three states in your stats that make them look dangerous are the least populated states with low amounts of murder and the most populated states look safer even though the murder rate is exorbitantly higher? Do you think that might be some spinning of reality?
MonarchMom wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:10 am
If you "do math" by counting gun deaths as a percentage of population, then states with the highest percentage of gun ownership per capita also have the highest death rate.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... a-by-state