SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:32 pm
Lemons wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:31 pm
SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:05 pm
I’m not talking about you, my comment is very general.
I haven’t seen a lot of Democrats give Pence credit for putting his life at risk by going against Trump to do the right thing and still feel he did not do enough.
That said, Democrats needs to pick a lane on this. If it’s serious enough to lock people up for it, it’s serious enough to give him credit for taking that risk.
It just doesn’t seem genuine to make it a big deal or minimize it based on what fits the narrative.
Again, this is general because I don’t know if that’s how you feel so I’m not accusing you of it.
Pence is who Pence is. It wasn’t surprising at all that he did the right thing. Of all the corruption swirling around Trump I don’t think Pence was involved in any of it. He’s a stand up guy who’s just a little bit creepy. I don’t remember anyone criticizing Pence. He did his job and all I heard was praise for him.
The hypocrisy lies with the MAGA cult. They claim to respect their country and respect the police. They show that by spraying bear spray in police faces and attacking them with flagpoles all the while threatening to kill government lawmakers. There is one narrative here and it was all recorded for everyone to see.
I have heard people on the left saying that Pence did not do enough to speak out against Trump’s beef with the election. I don’t remember your stance on it either, so that’s why I said my comment wasn’t directly at you specifically.
No, the left is definitely guilty of hypocrisy too. We’ll get a lot further once both parties realize the the opposing side isn’t the only one who is guilty of this.
This isn’t a competition of which side has the worst rioters. Only difference is one reason is more understandable than the other but the actual act itself is no different.
Burning down a police station is wrong and tearing up the capital is also wrong.
True Pence could have said a little more than he did but he’s prob hoping it all goes away.
Your right it’s not a competition nor is it both sides. That’s why it didn’t make sense that bionic compared them. Reverse it with this narrative - Democrats attack the White House with deadly weapons and try to get at Trump. In the meantime White MAGAs are tearing up cities protesting because they are upset about Democrats passing a bill that will effect them negatively. In this case the Democrats would have done something much more grievous and dangerous. white MAGAs would have been protesting an injustice. Democrats would have been committing treason.
Protests against unfairness or injustice have changed the country for the better. The Boston Tea Party started a revolution. Vietnam protests helped end the war. Civil rights protests started the tear down of Jim Crow laws and brought the start of equality.
BLM was the latest protest about injustice. It became out of control and was too violent but it also started some real change and awareness not unlike the civil rights protests of the 1960’s.
None of these are comparable to Jan 6. A riot where people in charge of the country were willing to make outrageous claims and dangerous lie and a small group of Americans were willing to do their bidding at the expense of a democratically held election. Even if that meant killing elected lawmakers.