Trump lunged at Secret Service agent who said he couldn't go to Capitol on January 6: aide

[DSamuels]

Not to mention the fact that it would be impossible for him to do in the Limo and this testimony was hearsay, but most likely just say with no hear involved.

It’s not court and she was clear that someone was told her the story. And he wasn’t in a limo, he was in a Suburban with bucket seats.

Interesting that at least 2 SS agents who were actually present in the vehicle are denying her account. They are offering to testify. I wonder if the committee will accept. I think the one she said told her the story is denying he told her also.

[jessilin0113]

Typical to get caught up in the minutiae of a story that was acknowledged from the start to be at least a second-hand story, and completely overlook the relevant testimony provided.

[Della]

Not to mention the fact that it would be impossible for him to do in the Limo and this testimony was hearsay, but most likely just say with no hear involved.

It’s not court and she was clear that someone was told her the story. And he wasn’t in a limo, he was in a Suburban with bucket seats.

Interesting that at least 2 SS agents who were actually present in the vehicle are denying her account. They are offering to testify. I wonder if the committee will accept. I think the one she said told her the story is denying he told her also.

Denying A PART of her account. Let's be truthful here.


"Both Bobby Engel, the top agent on Trump's Secret Service detail who was in the car, and Ornato, who was not in the car, testified to the January 6 Committee in private over the past year, the source close to Ornato said.

Engel and Ornato never brought up part about steering wheel, according to that source. Both want to testify on the record again and refute the part about Trump grabbing or trying to grab the wheel. The driver of the SUV, who is unnamed, will also cooperate with the committee.

A source close to the USSS says Hutchinson was truthful when she said that Trump was furious inside the SUV. Trump did want to go to the Capitol on January 6 and was yelling and shouting. However, the steering wheel part is false, per this source."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tony-o ... nt-sources

[SouthernIslander]

Typical to get caught up in the minutiae of a story that was acknowledged from the start to be at least a second-hand story, and completely overlook the relevant testimony provided.

I don’t think having a conversation about it as getting “caught up” in pettiness or that means people don’t want to discuss other relevant testimony provided.

This is just the article that I posted and people are commenting on it.

[Lemons]

Typical to get caught up in the minutiae of a story that was acknowledged from the start to be at least a second-hand story, and completely overlook the relevant testimony provided.

I don’t think having a conversation about it as getting “caught up” in pettiness or that means people don’t want to discuss other relevant testimony provided.

This is just the article that I posted and people are commenting on it.

True, it did stand out in the testimony. I think the problem is some people (not here) get their news from talk radio host and that’s all they will discuss. If you didn’t read the full story and only heard this you would think she’s a flake.

Probably a mistake to include that in her testimony because the guy who told her could have exaggerated. Or these SS agents need their jobs and don’t want trouble.

[Lemons]

Not to mention the fact that it would be impossible for him to do in the Limo and this testimony was hearsay, but most likely just say with no hear involved.

It’s not court and she was clear that someone was told her the story. And he wasn’t in a limo, he was in a Suburban with bucket seats.

Interesting that at least 2 SS agents who were actually present in the vehicle are denying her account. They are offering to testify. I wonder if the committee will accept. I think the one she said told her the story is denying he told her also.

They need to clarify it. People can exaggerate or lie plus she wasn’t there. But, please. You can’t picture him doing that?

[DSamuels]

It’s not court and she was clear that someone was told her the story. And he wasn’t in a limo, he was in a Suburban with bucket seats.

Interesting that at least 2 SS agents who were actually present in the vehicle are denying her account. They are offering to testify. I wonder if the committee will accept. I think the one she said told her the story is denying he told her also.

They need to clarify it. People can exaggerate or lie plus she wasn’t there. But, please. You can’t picture him doing that?

Actually no, I can’t picture him doing that.

[DSamuels]

It’s not court and she was clear that someone was told her the story. And he wasn’t in a limo, he was in a Suburban with bucket seats.

Interesting that at least 2 SS agents who were actually present in the vehicle are denying her account. They are offering to testify. I wonder if the committee will accept. I think the one she said told her the story is denying he told her also.

Denying A PART of her account. Let's be truthful here.


"Both Bobby Engel, the top agent on Trump's Secret Service detail who was in the car, and Ornato, who was not in the car, testified to the January 6 Committee in private over the past year, the source close to Ornato said.

Engel and Ornato never brought up part about steering wheel, according to that source. Both want to testify on the record again and refute the part about Trump grabbing or trying to grab the wheel. The driver of the SUV, who is unnamed, will also cooperate with the committee.

A source close to the USSS says Hutchinson was truthful when she said that Trump was furious inside the SUV. Trump did want to go to the Capitol on January 6 and was yelling and shouting. However, the steering wheel part is false, per this source."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tony-o ... nt-sources

So you’re accusing me of lying? Nice. But then your last sentence is what I said. SMH

What she described that was being talked about was him grabbing the steering wheel and lunging at an agent. The SS agents present have said it never happened. I wasn’t talking about him being angry or shouting, nor was it part of the tree I was quoting.

[Della]

Interesting that at least 2 SS agents who were actually present in the vehicle are denying her account. They are offering to testify. I wonder if the committee will accept. I think the one she said told her the story is denying he told her also.

Denying A PART of her account. Let's be truthful here.


"Both Bobby Engel, the top agent on Trump's Secret Service detail who was in the car, and Ornato, who was not in the car, testified to the January 6 Committee in private over the past year, the source close to Ornato said.

Engel and Ornato never brought up part about steering wheel, according to that source. Both want to testify on the record again and refute the part about Trump grabbing or trying to grab the wheel. The driver of the SUV, who is unnamed, will also cooperate with the committee.

A source close to the USSS says Hutchinson was truthful when she said that Trump was furious inside the SUV. Trump did want to go to the Capitol on January 6 and was yelling and shouting. However, the steering wheel part is false, per this source."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tony-o ... nt-sources

So you’re accusing me of lying? Nice. But then your last sentence is what I said. SMH

What she described that was being talked about was him grabbing the steering wheel and lunging at an agent. The SS agents present have said it never happened. I wasn’t talking about him being angry or shouting, nor was it part of the tree I was quoting.

Nope. IF I'm accusing you of anything,it would be ignoring the reality of her testimony as a whole. That was my point. You are focusing so hard on what may be untruthful without saying anything about the fact that Secret Service isn't denying anything about the facts about Trump's actions that day.

Like I said, let's be truthful here.

[SouthernIslander]

Typical to get caught up in the minutiae of a story that was acknowledged from the start to be at least a second-hand story, and completely overlook the relevant testimony provided.

I don’t think having a conversation about it as getting “caught up” in pettiness or that means people don’t want to discuss other relevant testimony provided.

This is just the article that I posted and people are commenting on it.

True, it did stand out in the testimony. I think the problem is some people (not here) get their news from talk radio host and that’s all they will discuss. If you didn’t read the full story and only heard this you would think she’s a flake.

Probably a mistake to include that in her testimony because the guy who told her could have exaggerated. Or these SS agents need their jobs and don’t want trouble.

I haven’t checked the news today but I haven’t heard a lot lot of unreasonable mess about this on blogs, talk radio, etc.