A 101-year-old man was convicted in Germany of 3,518 counts of accessory to murder on Tuesday for serving at the Nazis' Sachsenhausen concentration camp during World War II. He was sentenced to five years in prison.
What do you think about prosecuting and imprisoning a very old person?
Prosecuting a 101 year old man
He is a Nazi war criminal that assisted in murdering at least 3518 people. OF COURSE he should be prosecuted. I doubt that he will see any prison time but if he does, good.
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I think Americans overlook what it means to be in the military, and what it means to be conscripted.
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Nuremberg defense?Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:01 am I think Americans overlook what it means to be in the military, and what it means to be conscripted.
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Ask yourself what happened to an American or British soldier who leaves, or refuses to follow orders. It’s called either desertion or cowardice , and you were shot to death. In Germany, you and your family and children were shot to death.Anonymous 2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:05 amNuremberg defense?Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:01 am I think Americans overlook what it means to be in the military, and what it means to be conscripted.
I think if you’re going to go by laws that expect a more moral behavior from soldiers than is expected from those giving them the orders, you have to come up with a more moral way for them to refuse orders without risking death either way.
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I wasn’t at his trial so I can’t say anything about the legality, morality, etc. “I was only following orders,” may well be a cop out. For all I know he had the ability to quit and didn’t. Or he did commit war crimes beyond what he was ordered to do. Rape, murder, etc. In that case I’ve no sympathy. It depends on many things. I will say I don’t think age should be a factor in whether or not he’s tried. Now if he’s feeble and or has dementia that could be taken into consideration for sentencing. Otherwise, murder and war crimes have no statute of limitations.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:01 am I think Americans overlook what it means to be in the military, and what it means to be conscripted.
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That’s a valid opinion, but with that, I believe there are a few hundred thousand American soldiers/ former soldiers that belong in prison too. And British, and Russian… none of those soldiers had the ability to quit, but they did commit murder under orders.Pjmm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:15 amI wasn’t at his trial so I can’t say anything about the legality, morality, etc. “I was only following orders,” may well be a cop out. For all I know he had the ability to quit and didn’t. Or he did commit war crimes beyond what he was ordered to do. Rape, murder, etc. In that case I’ve no sympathy. It depends on many things. I will say I don’t think age should be a factor in whether or not he’s tried. Now if he’s feeble and or has dementia that could be taken into consideration for sentencing. Otherwise, murder and war crimes have no statute of limitations.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:01 am I think Americans overlook what it means to be in the military, and what it means to be conscripted.
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Do the crime do the time regardless of age. What if this 101 year old man took a stack of Viagra and went on a raping spree? Would that be any different? Not to me.
I went to school with someone who downloaded CSAM. His Mom took the blame. She didn't go to prison because she had so many health issues that it was cheaper for them to have her on house arrest. I didn't agree with that. She should have rotted with the rest of the pervs.
I went to school with someone who downloaded CSAM. His Mom took the blame. She didn't go to prison because she had so many health issues that it was cheaper for them to have her on house arrest. I didn't agree with that. She should have rotted with the rest of the pervs.
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Every soldier commits murder that’s kinda the point. Until and unless war becomes A.I driven that’s the way it is. The question is did this man go above and beyond his orders and did he have options to refuse them? If he tortured, raped and killed civilians than he should be tried. Any soldier should. Some Americans were tried for their actions in Vietnam. I’ve no problem with that. I’m just saying I know nothing about this soldier’s trial. I would question why it took them sixty plus years though.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:21 amThat’s a valid opinion, but with that, I believe there are a few hundred thousand American soldiers/ former soldiers that belong in prison too. And British, and Russian… none of those soldiers had the ability to quit, but they did commit murder under orders.Pjmm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:15 amI wasn’t at his trial so I can’t say anything about the legality, morality, etc. “I was only following orders,” may well be a cop out. For all I know he had the ability to quit and didn’t. Or he did commit war crimes beyond what he was ordered to do. Rape, murder, etc. In that case I’ve no sympathy. It depends on many things. I will say I don’t think age should be a factor in whether or not he’s tried. Now if he’s feeble and or has dementia that could be taken into consideration for sentencing. Otherwise, murder and war crimes have no statute of limitations.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:01 am I think Americans overlook what it means to be in the military, and what it means to be conscripted.
Is there any way to link the story?Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:49 am A 101-year-old man was convicted in Germany of 3,518 counts of accessory to murder on Tuesday for serving at the Nazis' Sachsenhausen concentration camp during World War II. He was sentenced to five years in prison.
What do you think about prosecuting and imprisoning a very old person?
Is/was house arrest an option?