DS is missing his best friends birthday because he is grounded.

[Anonymous 1]

I'm kind of on his side.
He screwed up big time, but this is a once in a lifetime event that won't happen again most likely.

I'm not a big supporter of punishing no matter what the cost.

They go on a trip every year. It isn't a once in a lifetime event at all. You aren't a supporter of punishing? That is crazy to me.

[Anonymous 1]

I've never grounded my kids so missing out like this has never been an issue in my house.

You do you.

What would you have done in my situation?

[Anonymous 1]

I'm with you on this. And i think it's a great idea he pay her back.

Where is the trip to? Just curious

A hot springs up in the mountains. They are staying in a cabin.

[Deleted User 1949]

I'm kind of on his side.
He screwed up big time, but this is a once in a lifetime event that won't happen again most likely.

I'm not a big supporter of punishing no matter what the cost.

They go on a trip every year. It isn't a once in a lifetime event at all. You aren't a supporter of punishing? That is crazy to me.

I said I’m not a fan of punishment **no matter the cost**

I don’t punish by taking away life experiences. If it happens every year and he can go with them next year then I guess it doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous 1]

I'm kind of on his side.
He screwed up big time, but this is a once in a lifetime event that won't happen again most likely.

I'm not a big supporter of punishing no matter what the cost.

They go on a trip every year. It isn't a once in a lifetime event at all. You aren't a supporter of punishing? That is crazy to me.

I said I’m not a fan of punishment **no matter the cost**

I don’t punish by taking away life experiences. If it happens every year and he can go with them next year then I guess it doesn’t matter.

The stars don't really change much. Your statement makes it seem like you just aren't a fan of punishment that is why people are confused by it I think.

[LiveWhatULove]

They go on a trip every year. It isn't a once in a lifetime event at all. You aren't a supporter of punishing? That is crazy to me.

I said I’m not a fan of punishment **no matter the cost**

I don’t punish by taking away life experiences. If it happens every year and he can go with them next year then I guess it doesn’t matter.

The stars don't really change much. Your statement makes it seem like you just aren't a fan of punishment that is why people are confused by it I think.

Idk, it makes sense to me.

My comments are just in general, I am certainly not criticizing your methods, and assure you know you DS better than any of us, and realize how to teach him best.

But…

Discipline is not synonymous with punishment. And consequences also is not synonymous with punishment.

Although punishment certainly can be effective discipline, just like any parenting tool there are a lot of factors that impact IF punishment (and the type) will teach the lesson that needs to be taught. Ask any youth and adult psychologist in the prison system and although there are plenty of young adults that had no involved parent, there are many more that had lot of punishments too.

[Deleted User 1949]

They go on a trip every year. It isn't a once in a lifetime event at all. You aren't a supporter of punishing? That is crazy to me.

I said I’m not a fan of punishment **no matter the cost**

I don’t punish by taking away life experiences. If it happens every year and he can go with them next year then I guess it doesn’t matter.

The stars don't really change much. Your statement makes it seem like you just aren't a fan of punishment that is why people are confused by it I think.

Well, it’s a full sentence. Just reading the beginning of the sentence might make it seem that way but if you finish it…

[Anonymous 1]

I said I’m not a fan of punishment **no matter the cost**

I don’t punish by taking away life experiences. If it happens every year and he can go with them next year then I guess it doesn’t matter.

The stars don't really change much. Your statement makes it seem like you just aren't a fan of punishment that is why people are confused by it I think.

Well, it’s a full sentence. Just reading the beginning of the sentence might make it seem that way but if you finish it…

How I read it is that you are not a fan of punishment no matter the cost which would mean from tiny costs to big costs. Punishment always comes at a cost so it can also be taken as you aren't for punishment. I'm not the only one who took it that way.

[Anonymous 4]

The stars don't really change much. Your statement makes it seem like you just aren't a fan of punishment that is why people are confused by it I think.

Well, it’s a full sentence. Just reading the beginning of the sentence might make it seem that way but if you finish it…

How I read it is that you are not a fan of punishment no matter the cost which would mean from tiny costs to big costs. Punishment always comes at a cost so it can also be taken as you aren't for punishment. I'm not the only one who took it that way.

No you’re not. I took it that way too and I’m sure others did as well. She could have said she’s not a fan of taking things away as punishment and prefers manual labor as punishment.

[Deleted User 1949]

The stars don't really change much. Your statement makes it seem like you just aren't a fan of punishment that is why people are confused by it I think.

Well, it’s a full sentence. Just reading the beginning of the sentence might make it seem that way but if you finish it…

How I read it is that you are not a fan of punishment no matter the cost which would mean from tiny costs to big costs. Punishment always comes at a cost so it can also be taken as you aren't for punishment. I'm not the only one who took it that way.

Ok, well, then I’m glad I got the opportunity to further explain my stance.