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Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:29 pm
by MistressMonster
Pjmm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:14 pm
So a man will get shot just for carrying matches? I mean whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Sure question the man or call the police but Jesus some people are getting a bit unhinged. Its not like he walked along with a can of gasoline and a propane torch.
Like I said in my earlier reply. Country people get real touchy about strangers encroaching on their property. He was on private property. He was most likely looking to steal stuff. But he was barking up the wrong tree.
I can remember hubby who grew up in Southern Oregon pointing out areas he knew people from. Some real backwoods hillbilly types. Who would shoot first, and ask later. Oregon is on edge right now.
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:30 pm
by MistressMonster
SummerDream wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:55 pm
MistressMonster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:23 am
He looks like a meth head. Curious as to what area he's in. He's damn lucky she didn't just shoot him first, then ask questions later. These country people get really funny about "strangers" on their lands. Yes, even here in Oregon, as you can see from the video. Even I've been questioned while waiting for crews to show up when parked off to the side of the road. Once we explain what's up. They tell us to stay safe.
I read some place where she told the guy that if her husband had caught him, he would have been shot.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:35 pm
by Pjmm
MistressMonster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:29 pm
Pjmm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:14 pm
So a man will get shot just for carrying matches? I mean whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Sure question the man or call the police but Jesus some people are getting a bit unhinged. Its not like he walked along with a can of gasoline and a propane torch.
Like I said in my earlier reply. Country people get real touchy about strangers encroaching on their property. He was on private property. He was most likely looking to steal stuff. But he was barking up the wrong tree.
I can remember hubby who grew up in Southern Oregon pointing out areas he knew people from. Some real backwoods hillbilly types. Who would shoot first, and ask later. Oregon is on edge right now.
It's kind of a shame its come to that. I mean I guess I can't blame them for being suspicious but it's still a shame
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:37 pm
by MistressMonster
sarah824 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:38 am
MistressMonster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:23 am
He looks like a meth head. Curious as to what area he's in. He's damn lucky she didn't just shoot him first, then ask questions later. These country people get really funny about "strangers" on their lands. Yes, even here in Oregon, as you can see from the video. Even I've been questioned while waiting for crews to show up when parked off to the side of the road. Once we explain what's up. They tell us to stay safe.
This was up by me. One of the responding cops was from Oregon City. Clackamas County was there as well...
Ahh gotcha! Glad police did respond. Btw speaking of your area. Did you see this article?
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2682OF]
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:40 pm
by Pjmm
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:25 pm
Pjmm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:14 pm
So a man will get shot just for carrying matches? I mean whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Sure question the man or call the police but Jesus some people are getting a bit unhinged. Its not like he walked along with a can of gasoline and a propane torch.
Do you know any small town country people in Florida?
Sure but not the kind that are going to shoot a person just for being on their property. They might run them off or ask why they're there. I grew up in a rural town. No one I knew personally was that suspicious. I take that back. I knew one bastard that might have if he was drunk enough. That's it. Do they exist yes. Have I ran into them no. And if I did I'd say they were a bit unhinged.
Now thinking about it yes Oregon has reason to be unhinged. But I still wouldn't shoot someone just for trespassing. I guess I'd be too afraid I'd end up in jail myself
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:11 pm
by Della
MistressMonster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:37 pm
sarah824 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:38 am
MistressMonster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:23 am
He looks like a meth head. Curious as to what area he's in. He's damn lucky she didn't just shoot him first, then ask questions later. These country people get really funny about "strangers" on their lands. Yes, even here in Oregon, as you can see from the video. Even I've been questioned while waiting for crews to show up when parked off to the side of the road. Once we explain what's up. They tell us to stay safe.
This was up by me. One of the responding cops was from Oregon City. Clackamas County was there as well...
Ahh gotcha! Glad police did respond. Btw speaking of your area. Did you see this article?
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2682OF]
A standing ovation from Florida. That's awesome.
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:23 pm
by MistressMonster
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:11 pm
A standing ovation from Florida. That's awesome.
We even have people age 70+ kicking ass on the fire lines.
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:11 am
by SummerDream
Pjmm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:14 pm
So a man will get shot just for carrying matches? I mean whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Sure question the man or call the police but Jesus some people are getting a bit unhinged. Its not like he walked along with a can of gasoline and a propane torch.
The man was on private land. These days, many will shoot and ask questions later. Actually, I know a few, who will shoot and ask questions later. They do live in a remote area, so that may have something to do with it.
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:02 am
by Della
Pjmm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:40 pm
Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:25 pm
Pjmm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:14 pm
So a man will get shot just for carrying matches? I mean whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Sure question the man or call the police but Jesus some people are getting a bit unhinged. Its not like he walked along with a can of gasoline and a propane torch.
Do you know any small town country people in Florida?
Sure but not the kind that are going to shoot a person just for being on their property. They might run them off or ask why they're there. I grew up in a rural town. No one I knew personally was that suspicious. I take that back. I knew one bastard that might have if he was drunk enough. That's it. Do they exist yes. Have I ran into them no. And if I did I'd say they were a bit unhinged.
Now thinking about it yes Oregon has reason to be unhinged. But I still wouldn't shoot someone just for trespassing. I guess I'd be too afraid I'd end up in jail myself
I know a few who would shoot without question and I know quite a few who would detain trespassers with a firearm. Depending on the circumstances, I can't say I wouldn't detain a trespasser until police arrived.
Re: Oregon wildfires: Woman seen holding suspected arsonist at gunpoint
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:14 am
by Frau Holle
Oh stop it. Spreading bologna about how scary country people are is just a way for some people to pretend they’re better than other people.
The reason we don’t hear about people being randomly shot for trespassing everyday is because it doesn’t just happen like that.
We have much more guns than city people do, but we shoot each other at a FAR lesser rate.
Check yourselves before you judge others.