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Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:28 am
by jessilin0113
Kavanaugh and Gorsuch arent paying such big dividends any more, huh? šŸ˜‚

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e=facebook

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:30 pm
by Francee89
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Seems like a lot of whining for someone who previously said heā€™d love to release them! ("If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that.")

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:54 pm
by Lemons
Francee89 wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:30 pm Itsssss notttttt faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir



Seems like a lot of whining for someone who previously said heā€™d love to release them! ("If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that.")
He also actually Tweeted a "whatabout Obama? He got caught spying on me and nothing happened to him!!!" He really is intellectually challenged.

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:50 pm
by Mommamia
Your title is a lie. The SC did not say he has to release his returns.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/0 ... rds-353428

The Supreme Court has delivered a split decision on subpoenas for President Donald Trumpā€™s tax returns and personal financial records, unanimously rejecting his broadest claims of ā€œabsoluteā€ immunity in a New York state criminal investigation, but ruling that lower courts did not do enough to scrutinize congressional subpoenas for similar records.

The pair of highly anticipated decisions likely mean more delays and court proceedings on both subpoenas, increasing the odds that Trump makes it to the Nov. 3 election without releasing his tax and financial details to the prosecutors and congressional committees demanding them.

More significantly, the rulings could permanently curb Congressā€™ formidable subpoena power against the executive branch, which lawmakers have wielded as a cudgel for information for decades. All the justices said Congress has deployed an over broad interpretation of its own power.

Ruling on several House subpoenas issued to Trumpā€™s accountants and banks, a seven-justice majority said courts did not do enough to examine Democratic lawmakers' claims that they needed the records as part of inquiries aimed at strengthening laws combating a wide range of ills, including money laundering, official conflicts of interest and foreign influence in U.S. elections.

Chief Justice John Roberts, who authored the majority opinions Thursday in both of the politically sensitive subpoena disputes, said lower-court judges needed to take ā€œa balanced approachā€ to the congressional subpoenas, closely examining Congressā€™ need for the information, ensuring that the subpoenas are tailored to those purposes and considering whether there might be alternate sources of information.

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:03 am
by Fliptopz4
Lemons wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:54 pm
Francee89 wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:30 pm Itsssss notttttt faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir



Seems like a lot of whining for someone who previously said heā€™d love to release them! ("If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that.")
He also actually Tweeted a "whatabout Obama? He got caught spying on me and nothing happened to him!!!" He really is intellectually challenged.
The Obama administration did spy on him and his campaign.

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:13 am
by californiagirl83
Francee89 wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:30 pm Itsssss notttttt faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir



Seems like a lot of whining for someone who previously said heā€™d love to release them! ("If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that.")
Just because I saw this recently, his tantrum made me think of Baby Herman. 5 points if you can ID the movie!

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:45 am
by moviestar
no

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice ... 16-2019-11
Fliptopz4 wrote: ā†‘Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:03 am
Lemons wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:54 pm
Francee89 wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:30 pm Itsssss notttttt faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir



Seems like a lot of whining for someone who previously said heā€™d love to release them! ("If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that.")
He also actually Tweeted a "whatabout Obama? He got caught spying on me and nothing happened to him!!!" He really is intellectually challenged.
The Obama administration did spy on him and his campaign.

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:52 am
by jessilin0113
Mommamia wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:50 pm Your title is a lie. The SC did not say he has to release his returns.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/0 ... rds-353428

The Supreme Court has delivered a split decision on subpoenas for President Donald Trumpā€™s tax returns and personal financial records, unanimously rejecting his broadest claims of ā€œabsoluteā€ immunity in a New York state criminal investigation, but ruling that lower courts did not do enough to scrutinize congressional subpoenas for similar records.

The pair of highly anticipated decisions likely mean more delays and court proceedings on both subpoenas, increasing the odds that Trump makes it to the Nov. 3 election without releasing his tax and financial details to the prosecutors and congressional committees demanding them.

More significantly, the rulings could permanently curb Congressā€™ formidable subpoena power against the executive branch, which lawmakers have wielded as a cudgel for information for decades. All the justices said Congress has deployed an over broad interpretation of its own power.

Ruling on several House subpoenas issued to Trumpā€™s accountants and banks, a seven-justice majority said courts did not do enough to examine Democratic lawmakers' claims that they needed the records as part of inquiries aimed at strengthening laws combating a wide range of ills, including money laundering, official conflicts of interest and foreign influence in U.S. elections.

Chief Justice John Roberts, who authored the majority opinions Thursday in both of the politically sensitive subpoena disputes, said lower-court judges needed to take ā€œa balanced approachā€ to the congressional subpoenas, closely examining Congressā€™ need for the information, ensuring that the subpoenas are tailored to those purposes and considering whether there might be alternate sources of information.
Meh, tomato, to-mah-to. Technically they ruled that Trump's claim of immunity because he's the president is invalid. Meaning he'll have to give his tax returns if subpoenaed. The end result is the same (to Vance, not to Congress, to clarify)

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:20 am
by Fliptopz4
moviestar wrote: ā†‘Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:45 am no

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice ... 16-2019-11
Fliptopz4 wrote: ā†‘Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:03 am
Lemons wrote: ā†‘Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:54 pm

He also actually Tweeted a "whatabout Obama? He got caught spying on me and nothing happened to him!!!" He really is intellectually challenged.
The Obama administration did spy on him and his campaign.
They used a dossier full of false information so they could investigate and surveille members of Trump's team.

Re: Supreme court votes 7-2 in favor of Trump having to release tax returns

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:34 am
by moviestar
Many elements of the originally Republican-commissioned steele dossier has actually been corroborated, and allegations that the FBI acted improperly in securing warrants to surveil some of trumpā€™s many many criminal associates have been investigated and determined unfounded.
Fliptopz4 wrote: ā†‘Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:20 am
moviestar wrote: ā†‘Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:45 am no

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice ... 16-2019-11
Fliptopz4 wrote: ā†‘Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:03 am

The Obama administration did spy on him and his campaign.
They used a dossier full of false information so they could investigate and surveille members of Trump's team.