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As Predicted: Parler Is Banning Users It Doesn't Like
Overhype

from the that-did-not-take-long-at-all dept
Mon, Jun 29th 2020 12:08pm — Mike Masnick
Well, that did not take long at all. On Friday we predicted that just like every other social media platform out there, the new favorite among people who falsely say that Twitter is censoring conservatives, would start taking down content and shutting down accounts just like everyone else. Because, if you run any sort of platform that allows 3rd party speech, sooner or later you discover you have to do that. In Friday's post, we highlighted Parler's terms of service, which certainly allows for it to take down any content for any reason (we also mocked their "quick read on Wikipedia" style understanding of the 1st Amendment).

What we did not expect was that Parler would prove us right so damn quickly. Over the weekend, Parler was apparently busy taking down accounts.

And he was not the only one.

There's a lot more as well. Parler seems to be banning a bunch of people. And it has the right to do so. Which is great. But what's not great is the site continues to pretend that it's some "free speech alternative" to Twitter when it's facing the same exact content moderation issues. And, yes, some people are claiming that Parler's quick trigger finger is mostly about shutting down "left" leaning accounts, but as with Twitter's content moderation, I won't say that for sure unless I see some actual evidence to support it.

What I will say is that when politicians like Ted Cruz say he's joining Parler because it doesn't have "censorship," he's wrong. Same with basically every other foolish person screaming about how Parler is about "free speech." It's got the same damn content moderation questions every platform has. And it's pretty silly for Parler's CEO to refer to Twitter as a "techno-fascist" company for its content moderation policies, when his company appears to be doing basically the same thing. Amusingly, the CEO is also claiming that "If you can say it on the street of New York, you can say it on Parler. Except that later in that same article, he admits: "You can’t spam people’s comment sections with unrelated content." Except, you kinda can do that on the "street of New York." (I recall there being more than one street in New York, but whatever). Anyway, this was always bogus, as you can see from the fact that so many accounts are being banned.

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Seems fair enough to me. And funny.

One possible alternative is https://flote.app/

Okay if you've (general you) got to be told you're banned for posting pictures of feces you've got problems. Wtf are you a chimp? I never heard of parler but give it a rest.

I think that is part of the point of Parler. The conservatives feel they've been given a rougher time of it from Twitter and accused of "hate speech" far too often while progressives, who've written much of the same type of thing, have not.

So I suppose fair is fair.

It's all silly to me and reminds of those exclusive "clubs" so many of us formed when we were in grade school and middle school to keep others out that were felt to be the low-end of school society.

So is this another version of the "No Girls Allowed Club" of prepubescent boys?

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:17 pm I think that is part of the point of Parler. The conservatives feel they've been given a rougher time of it from Twitter and accused of "hate speech" far too often while progressives, who've written much of the same type of thing, have not.

So I suppose fair is fair.

It's all silly to me and reminds of those exclusive "clubs" so many of us formed when we were in grade school and middle school to keep others out that were felt to be the low-end of school society.

Twitter was very specific on why Trumps Tweets were flagged. Misinformation. Lies.

Do you have specific examples of progressives Tweeting lies or hate without being flagged?

I'm actually a little surprised they don't allow screen names like cumdumpster. The problem with running any free speech website is that they usually do devolve into porn and obscenities. Some of our top search terms are about porn because people are perverts lol.

Emandab wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:45 pm Screen-Shot-2020-06-30-at-12.30.08-PM.png

Seems fair enough to me. And funny.

If you ever want create a freedom of speech website, here are some hints:

1. It needs to be self hosted, hosting providers have their own rules.
2. The server should be stored in a server bank in another country. Preferably one that doesn’t relinquish things back to the US
3. Be prepared for a lot of porn, like A LOT of porn lol
4. Understand that the only advertisers who will work with your site are porn websites and other questionable sites.
5. Keep a really good lawyer on retainer and take out a lot of insurance
6. Be prepared for the authorities to get involved

If you want to join a true freedom of speech website then get a tor browser and dig around the deep web. There’s a ton of them there. Surface web websites have to cater to search engines and other rules to avoid being taken down or buried.

12skipafew wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:46 pm If you ever want create a freedom of speech website, here are some hints:

1. It needs to be self hosted, hosting providers have their own rules.
2. The server should be stored in a server bank in another country. Preferably one that doesn’t relinquish things back to the US
3. Be prepared for a lot of porn, like A LOT of porn lol
4. Understand that the only advertisers who will work with your site are porn websites and other questionable sites.
5. Keep a really good lawyer on retainer and take out a lot of insurance
6. Be prepared for the authorities to get involved

If you want to join a true freedom of speech website then get a tor browser and dig around the deep web. There’s a ton of them there. Surface web websites have to cater to search engines and other rules to avoid being taken down or buried.

Sounds like more work/risk than it’s worth, IMO.