Trump fires John Bolton, National Security adviser

[Deleted User 1344]

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/72436370 ... -divisions

[Della]

I never could understand why he chose a war hawk like Bolton.

[Francee89]

LOL Bolton is literally texting Fox News hosts on air disputing Trump’s narrative of him leaving. Bolton is a war hawk, but at least he’s not spineless and won’t go silently.

[Francee89]

Bush had 2 and Obama had 3 National Security Advisors over 8 years. Trump is going on 5.

[Valentina327]

If Trump is trying in earnest to reach accord with some of our historic enemies (N Korea/Afghanistan), and this guy is blowing that up, its understandable. Usually the left is critical of any war or aggression being used. I'd think that you'd all be applauding diplomacy.

[Francee89]

If Trump is trying in earnest to reach accord with some of our historic enemies (N Korea/Afghanistan), and this guy is blowing that up, its understandable. Usually the left is critical of any war or aggression being used. I'd think that you'd all be applauding diplomacy.

If Trump is pro-diplomacy and anti-war/aggression, why did he hire known war hawk Bolton in the first place? It’s not like his views should have come as a surprise to anyone, least of all his boss.

And when he’s going on NSA number 5 in less than 3 years (Bush and Obama has 2 and 3 over 8 years, respectively), it begins to look like the issue is either than he has terrible judgement or that the problem isn’t them, it’s him.

[Valentina327]

If Trump is trying in earnest to reach accord with some of our historic enemies (N Korea/Afghanistan), and this guy is blowing that up, its understandable. Usually the left is critical of any war or aggression being used. I'd think that you'd all be applauding diplomacy.

If Trump is pro-diplomacy and anti-war/aggression, why did he hire known war hawk Bolton in the first place? It’s not like his views should have come as a surprise to anyone, least of all his boss.

I would imagine it's a lot like hiring people in regular business. Someone has a great resume, stellar bona fides and you think they'd be a perfect fit. You know they may have a deficiency in an area - everyone does. You just don't know how that deficiency will play out in day to day dealing. You don't know the impact of any persons shortcomings until you're in the thick of things.

[Deleted User 1344]

If Trump is trying in earnest to reach accord with some of our historic enemies (N Korea/Afghanistan), and this guy is blowing that up, its understandable. Usually the left is critical of any war or aggression being used. I'd think that you'd all be applauding diplomacy.

Diplomacy with North Korea!?
It didn’t work last time.
I doubt it will this time .
And Afghanistan is no longer our enemy:

https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-afghanistan/

[Momto2boys973]

So... we’re going from “the best” people, to “good enough” people, to “mediocre” people, to “incompetent people”... How lower will the next one be?

Bush had 2 and Obama had 3 National Security Advisors over 8 years. Trump is going on 5.

[Francee89]

If Trump is trying in earnest to reach accord with some of our historic enemies (N Korea/Afghanistan), and this guy is blowing that up, its understandable. Usually the left is critical of any war or aggression being used. I'd think that you'd all be applauding diplomacy.

If Trump is pro-diplomacy and anti-war/aggression, why did he hire known war hawk Bolton in the first place? It’s not like his views should have come as a surprise to anyone, least of all his boss.

I would imagine it's a lot like hiring people in regular business. Someone has a great resume, stellar bona fides and you think they'd be a perfect fit. You know they may have a deficiency in an area - everyone does. You just don't know how that deficiency will play out in day to day dealing. You don't know the impact of any persons shortcomings until you're in the thick of things.

Except in this case, his great resume and stellar bona fides included being a known, loudly outspoken war hawk - professionally and on television - who was hired to advise the President on national security. If Trump is pro-diplomacy, how was that not an automatic dealbreaker? His worldview/foreign policy philosophy is central to the role, not some minor deficiency.

The White House/Trump admin also has an unprecedented level of turnover. At a certain point, it looks like either the person hiring them has terrible judgement, terrible management or is the self the problem.