Mom Confessions

KnotaDinghy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:43 am

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:50 am Whether the evidence is sufficient to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt is supposed to be decided by the jury, not as a condition of trial...

KnotaDinghy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:25 am If there is an allegation of a crime, it should be investigated fairly. If evidence is insufficient to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt, the matter should be dismissed without prejudice - by all. If not, there should be criminal proceedings where a jury of unbiased peers weigh all evidence. If found guilty - punished accordingly. If found innocent - so be it.

No one is above the law.
No one should be treated differently.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty - regardless of 'your' opinion.

Ok. You can continue on with you anti-Trump - convict - for -any -reason stance. Good luck with that.

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:46 am Wtf? It’s okay, not everyone understands the criminal justice system, no need to be embarrassed and lash out at me because it happens that I do.

KnotaDinghy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:43 am

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:50 am Whether the evidence is sufficient to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt is supposed to be decided by the jury, not as a condition of trial...

Ok. You can continue on with you anti-Trump - convict - for -any -reason stance. Good luck with that.

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:55 am No.

An impeachment is trial to decide whether to remove an official from office. Totally different than a criminal trial, though a successful impeachment could, in theory, lead to criminal charges if criminal activity was the basis of the impeachment (it doesn’t have to be).

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:55 am Educate me...isn't this what an impeachment inquiry would be about?

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:55 am No.

An impeachment is trial to decide whether to remove an official from office. Totally different than a criminal trial, though a successful impeachment could, in theory, lead to criminal charges if criminal activity was the basis of the impeachment (it doesn’t have to be).

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:55 am Educate me...isn't this what an impeachment inquiry would be about?

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:54 am To the part in your reply that I've underlined...THAT is why I've asked and because of the current social/political climate, particularly on social media sites, and many citing that an impeachment would ultimately lead to Trump's incarceration.

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:55 am No.

An impeachment is trial to decide whether to remove an official from office. Totally different than a criminal trial, though a successful impeachment could, in theory, lead to criminal charges if criminal activity was the basis of the impeachment (it doesn’t have to be).

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:55 am Educate me...isn't this what an impeachment inquiry would be about?

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:54 pm If trump were impeached for obstruction of justice he could then be criminally charged after being removed from office. Pence could preemptively pardon him as Ford did for Nixon but I suspect if he were actually successfully removed from office, establishment republicans would start distancing themselves from him at lightning speed.

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:54 am To the part in your reply that I've underlined...THAT is why I've asked and because of the current social/political climate, particularly on social media sites, and many citing that an impeachment would ultimately lead to Trump's incarceration.

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:55 am No.

An impeachment is trial to decide whether to remove an official from office. Totally different than a criminal trial, though a successful impeachment could, in theory, lead to criminal charges if criminal activity was the basis of the impeachment (it doesn’t have to be).

Mother_of_Dragons wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:34 pm Voted, I stand with the smart majority.

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:28 pm There are still quite a few establishment Republicans who seem to really like Trump (a rarity in politics today) and like what he's doing but like with any smart politician, they would literally have to distance himself if any of this were to ever happen, and just to save their own political hides.

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:54 pm If trump were impeached for obstruction of justice he could then be criminally charged after being removed from office. Pence could preemptively pardon him as Ford did for Nixon but I suspect if he were actually successfully removed from office, establishment republicans would start distancing themselves from him at lightning speed.

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:54 am To the part in your reply that I've underlined...THAT is why I've asked and because of the current social/political climate, particularly on social media sites, and many citing that an impeachment would ultimately lead to Trump's incarceration.

CockatooCrazyColt529 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:25 pm

AZLizardLady wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:28 pm There are still quite a few establishment Republicans who seem to really like Trump (a rarity in politics today) and like what he's doing but like with any smart politician, they would literally have to distance himself if any of this were to ever happen, and just to save their own political hides.

TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:54 pm If trump were impeached for obstruction of justice he could then be criminally charged after being removed from office. Pence could preemptively pardon him as Ford did for Nixon but I suspect if he were actually successfully removed from office, establishment republicans would start distancing themselves from him at lightning speed.

Who are they? Serious question. I've really been out of the loop.