Mom Confessions

Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:16 pm I’m on the fence over this. There’s part of me that just can’t get past that in being inclusive we are still sending the message that females are second class citizens to males. I get it, though born biologically male, they identify female. I respect that BUT at the same time, identifying as female and having to deal with the struggles of identifying as female isn’t the same as being born female. It’s one of my hypocrisies in part because I don’t feel that same hang up with those born female that identify as male. I’ve yet to figure out a fair and just solution.

msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:47 am This is one of those situations where it is impossible to be fair to all. I don't know what the answer is.

water<wine wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:45 pm

wildflowers25 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:39 pm This is just so bizarre to me. I have a feeling that more than one of the guys that is doing this kind of thing is only doing it because they know they couldn't compete with other men.

Despite what the left claims, greed and selfishness drive most people. if something benefits them, even if it puts others at a disadvantage, they will seize that opportunity. if a lion has a choice to chase down a gazelle with a broken foot or a strong one, it will choose the easy prey.

"social justice" just means giving select "identities" advantages over others. logically, this leads to viewing perceived victim group identities as tools to be exploited for gain. ie, Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren and of course "trans-women" athletes.

highlandmum wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:22 am There is no fair answer. The athletic bodies of individual sports are going to have to sit down and have a discussion the way to best implement strategies for their individual sports. Women deserve to have a fair playing field and with the introduction of transgender women that may mean that there needs to be testing and limits for testosterone for transgender women (to the same requirement for a biological women). These situations with a transgender athlete are extremely rare, and we only hear about the times that a transgender athlete wins, not about the athlete losing.

water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:04 pm

highlandmum wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:22 am There is no fair answer. The athletic bodies of individual sports are going to have to sit down and have a discussion the way to best implement strategies for their individual sports. Women deserve to have a fair playing field and with the introduction of transgender women that may mean that there needs to be testing and limits for testosterone for transgender women (to the same requirement for a biological women). These situations with a transgender athlete are extremely rare, and we only hear about the times that a transgender athlete wins, not about the athlete losing.

its not just their current testosterone levels that impacts their performance. after going through puberty, males gain more muscle mass, larger skeletal size and bone mass than females, despite comparable body size. permanently. - these are not reversible changes.