Super. Any licensed, legitimate healthcare provider would not perform, much less sign off on, an abortion at 9 months because a woman says she suddenly feels bad about it. That's not going to pass any sort of muster.Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:55 pmjessilin0113 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pmYou think a credible, licensed doctor will sign off and perform an abortion in the 9th month because a woman suddenly, and with all proper documentation, doesn't want to be a mother?https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-y ... ons-birth/It expands the list of health care professionals who can perform abortions beyond physicians to also encompass highly trained nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants.
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What bothers me is that New York’s new law does not explicitly define “health.”jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:22 pmSuper. Any licensed, legitimate healthcare provider would not perform, much less sign off on, an abortion at 9 months because a woman says she suddenly feels bad about it. That's not going to pass any sort of muster.Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:55 pmjessilin0113 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pm
You think a credible, licensed doctor will sign off and perform an abortion in the 9th month because a woman suddenly, and with all proper documentation, doesn't want to be a mother?https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-y ... ons-birth/It expands the list of health care professionals who can perform abortions beyond physicians to also encompass highly trained nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants.
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There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.
If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
morgan wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pmIt's not a moot point. It's part of the law. It can happen. And I guarantee you, it will.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:33 pmYeah, we both know that doesn't happen. And unless a doctor signs off on it, it's a moot point.
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Presumably they decided to leave that up to the doctors. As they should.
Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:24 pmWhat bothers me is that New York’s new law does not explicitly define “health.”jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:22 pmSuper. Any licensed, legitimate healthcare provider would not perform, much less sign off on, an abortion at 9 months because a woman says she suddenly feels bad about it. That's not going to pass any sort of muster.
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When the states have stricter laws and more fines and longer sentences for abortion than rape, you know that state doesn't care for women.
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Which states would that be?TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 pm There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.
If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?morgan wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pmIt's not a moot point. It's part of the law. It can happen. And I guarantee you, it will.jessilin0113 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 4:33 pm
Yeah, we both know that doesn't happen. And unless a doctor signs off on it, it's a moot point.
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Alaska
Colorado
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
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Vermont
Washington, D.C.
https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state
Colorado
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont
Washington, D.C.
https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state
Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:56 pmWhich states would that be?TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 pm There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.
If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
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The entire country of Canada does have any abortion laws. Mysteriously, there’s no country-wide epidemic of women deciding to have abortions at 39 weeks, 6 days pregnant because going to lunch or the movies sounds more fun than labor and delivery there either.TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 pm Alaska
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Lexy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:56 pmWhich states would that be?TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 pm There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.
If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
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Francee89 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 6:15 pmThe entire country of Canada does have any abortion laws. Mysteriously, there’s no country-wide epidemic of women deciding to have abortions at 39 weeks, 6 days pregnant because going to lunch or the movies sounds more fun than labor and delivery there either.TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 pm Alaska
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People follow the Law as it exists -
And following the law doesn't make the news.
So, how do the two of you know of or about any statistics regading how many women are having legal late term abortions?
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Abortion statistics are published. Third trimester abortions are rare, and there’s no indication women are getting them because they’d prefer to get their nails done instead of delivering. Not to mention, pro-life groups try to do “undercover” stings all the time - you don’t think they’d have sent some third trimester pregnant women to hospitals or doctor’s offices to pretend they want an abortion because being pregnant just isn’t fun anymore by now?Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 10:16 amFrancee89 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 6:15 pmThe entire country of Canada does have any abortion laws. Mysteriously, there’s no country-wide epidemic of women deciding to have abortions at 39 weeks, 6 days pregnant because going to lunch or the movies sounds more fun than labor and delivery there either.TheReluctantHippie wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 pm Alaska
Colorado
New Hampshire
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New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont
Washington, D.C.
https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state
People follow the Law as it exists -
And following the law doesn't make the news.
So, how do the two of you know of or about any statistics regading how many women are having legal late term abortions?