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Lexy wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:55 pm
jessilin0113 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pm
morgan wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pm

It's not a moot point. It's part of the law. It can happen. And I guarantee you, it will.
You think a credible, licensed doctor will sign off and perform an abortion in the 9th month because a woman suddenly, and with all proper documentation, doesn't want to be a mother?
It expands the list of health care professionals who can perform abortions beyond physicians to also encompass highly trained nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-y ... ons-birth/
Super. Any licensed, legitimate healthcare provider would not perform, much less sign off on, an abortion at 9 months because a woman says she suddenly feels bad about it. That's not going to pass any sort of muster.
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jessilin0113 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:22 pm
Lexy wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:55 pm
jessilin0113 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pm

You think a credible, licensed doctor will sign off and perform an abortion in the 9th month because a woman suddenly, and with all proper documentation, doesn't want to be a mother?
It expands the list of health care professionals who can perform abortions beyond physicians to also encompass highly trained nurse practitioners, licensed midwives, and physician assistants.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-y ... ons-birth/
Super. Any licensed, legitimate healthcare provider would not perform, much less sign off on, an abortion at 9 months because a woman says she suddenly feels bad about it. That's not going to pass any sort of muster.
What bothers me is that New York’s new law does not explicitly define “health.”
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There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.

If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
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morgan wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:27 pm

Like the woman deciding in the 9th month that she's too emotionally unstable to be a mother?
Yeah, we both know that doesn't happen. And unless a doctor signs off on it, it's a moot point.
It's not a moot point. It's part of the law. It can happen. And I guarantee you, it will.
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Presumably they decided to leave that up to the doctors. As they should.
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jessilin0113 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:22 pm
Super. Any licensed, legitimate healthcare provider would not perform, much less sign off on, an abortion at 9 months because a woman says she suddenly feels bad about it. That's not going to pass any sort of muster.
What bothers me is that New York’s new law does not explicitly define “health.”
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When the states have stricter laws and more fines and longer sentences for abortion than rape, you know that state doesn't care for women.
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TheReluctantHippie wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 pm There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.

If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
morgan wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pm
jessilin0113 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:33 pm

Yeah, we both know that doesn't happen. And unless a doctor signs off on it, it's a moot point.
It's not a moot point. It's part of the law. It can happen. And I guarantee you, it will.
Which states would that be?
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Alaska
Colorado
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont
Washington, D.C.

https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state
Lexy wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:56 pm
TheReluctantHippie wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 pm There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.

If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
morgan wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 4:46 pm

It's not a moot point. It's part of the law. It can happen. And I guarantee you, it will.
Which states would that be?
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TheReluctantHippie wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 pm Alaska
Colorado
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont
Washington, D.C.

https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state
Lexy wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:56 pm
TheReluctantHippie wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:26 pm There are several states that don’t have any restrictions on abortion at all and never have since the passage of RvW. There is nothing legally stopping a woman from aborting at any stage of pregnancy, for any reason or no reason at all.

If you are so sure that women will start aborting in the ninth month because they suddenly decided that motherhood would be a threat to their emotional stability as to guarantee it, could you explain why that hasn’t been happening all these years in those states?
Which states would that be?
The entire country of Canada does have any abortion laws. Mysteriously, there’s no country-wide epidemic of women deciding to have abortions at 39 weeks, 6 days pregnant because going to lunch or the movies sounds more fun than labor and delivery there either.
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Francee89 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 6:15 pm
TheReluctantHippie wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 pm Alaska
Colorado
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont
Washington, D.C.

https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state
Lexy wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 5:56 pm

Which states would that be?
The entire country of Canada does have any abortion laws. Mysteriously, there’s no country-wide epidemic of women deciding to have abortions at 39 weeks, 6 days pregnant because going to lunch or the movies sounds more fun than labor and delivery there either.


People follow the Law as it exists -
And following the law doesn't make the news.
So, how do the two of you know of or about any statistics regading how many women are having legal late term abortions?
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Billie.jeens wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:16 am
Francee89 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 6:15 pm
TheReluctantHippie wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 6:07 pm Alaska
Colorado
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont
Washington, D.C.

https://ballotpedia.org/Abortion_regulations_by_state

The entire country of Canada does have any abortion laws. Mysteriously, there’s no country-wide epidemic of women deciding to have abortions at 39 weeks, 6 days pregnant because going to lunch or the movies sounds more fun than labor and delivery there either.


People follow the Law as it exists -
And following the law doesn't make the news.
So, how do the two of you know of or about any statistics regading how many women are having legal late term abortions?
Abortion statistics are published. Third trimester abortions are rare, and there’s no indication women are getting them because they’d prefer to get their nails done instead of delivering. Not to mention, pro-life groups try to do “undercover” stings all the time - you don’t think they’d have sent some third trimester pregnant women to hospitals or doctor’s offices to pretend they want an abortion because being pregnant just isn’t fun anymore by now?
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