Unvaccinated boy nearly died from tetanus. The cost of his care was almost $1 million.

[Momto2boys973]

And what’s shocking is that they refused to give him another dose of the vaccine! I guess having to cough up a million bucks and seeing your kid knocking on death’s door and in extreme pain isn’t enough to knock sense into some people...

[Pjmm]

It’s still not that hard to come by all the necessary equipment. And if they live in a rural area, probably far from a hospital, it’s not a bad idea to have such things at hand for minor wounds.
And, as I said, the infection was probably caused by his original outdoors wound. Tetanus lives in organic rich soil, like soil that’s been treated with manure, or where animals roam free. It’s extremely unlike that a first aid needle used for stitching was the cause.

The thread and needle come in several basic first aid kits. You can get stitching supplies in medical supply stores, even in pharmacies. And the know how isn’t that critical. I learned it in pre-med in about an hour. I could stitch my child’s hand if I had to. Obviously I would prefer someone with more practice because of scarring, but I still could do it.
There’s nothing in the link to suggest that they just grabbed a needle and thread from granny’s old sewing box and just went it without anesthesia or hygiene.

Idk what first aid you bought but I've bought several. For work and for scouting and it's never been in one of mine. Ds has taken scout wilderness survival and there's no discussion of stitching in first aid classes nor in mine I've taken as part of CPR and first aid. Most people aren't in pre med and I say proper equipment or not these parents still have a screw loose. Anesthesia isn't all that easy to come by. That numbing spray stuff at Walgreens isn't going to cut it for stitching a wound.

That's not my point. My point is the stitching was unnecessary pain to put a kid through unless they're lost in the wilderness. I've gotten stitches and even with novacain that shit hurts. Now I might have held it closed with steri-strips until he could go to the ER. They just seem like strange people. If I nearly watched my kid die I'd be like you recommend the rest of the series? By all means doc do what you gotta.

[Momto2boys973]

How do you know they didn’t have proper pain relief for their child? You’re making too many assumptions just because they did something at home that you wouldn’t because you don’t have the necessary equipment or know how. But where on the OPs link does it say that the first aid care the gave to their child was inadequate?
I’ve gotten stitches too and with a little lidocaine gel and a couple of injections of local anesthesia in the wound was more than enough. So why are you assuming that they tortured their kid when there’s nothing in the article to even suggest that.
I’m not saying what they did was a good idea, but we don’t have ANY details regarding their ability to provide that care for their child themselves. So that’s really not the point. The point is that the kid got sick and almost died because he wasn’t vaccinated, not because his parents dealt with the stitches.

It’s still not that hard to come by all the necessary equipment. And if they live in a rural area, probably far from a hospital, it’s not a bad idea to have such things at hand for minor wounds.
And, as I said, the infection was probably caused by his original outdoors wound. Tetanus lives in organic rich soil, like soil that’s been treated with manure, or where animals roam free. It’s extremely unlike that a first aid needle used for stitching was the cause.

Idk what first aid you bought but I've bought several. For work and for scouting and it's never been in one of mine. Ds has taken scout wilderness survival and there's no discussion of stitching in first aid classes nor in mine I've taken as part of CPR and first aid. Most people aren't in pre med and I say proper equipment or not these parents still have a screw loose. Anesthesia isn't all that easy to come by. That numbing spray stuff at Walgreens isn't going to cut it for stitching a wound.

That's not my point. My point is the stitching was unnecessary pain to put a kid through unless they're lost in the wilderness. I've gotten stitches and even with novacain that sh*t hurts. Now I might have held it closed with steri-strips until he could go to the ER. They just seem like strange people.

[HanSolo]

Wouldn’t that mean you’re not technically an anti-vaxer?

Because chances are the boy became infected from the cut he had OUTDOORS, not from the stitching. You don’t know if the parents had some training and knew how to do it. I do. And I didn’t read anything in the OPs link that suggested it was done in an unclean environment. If that kid had been vaccinated, then even the at home stitching wouldn’t have been an issue.
I’m willing to bet that they didn’t want to take the kid to get stitches at the hospital because they knew the doctors would push for a tetanus shot.

I don’t vaccinate but when my dd needed stitches we went to the hospital and she got a tetanus shot.

I don’t label myself. I’m not a sheep.

[Deleted User 670]

The parents stitched it up at home and failed to get antibiotics. If the kid had gone to the ER and got the wound stitched up, he would have gotten a tetanus shot and antibiotics. My old chiropractor got a case of tetanus and he was supposedly up to date on his tetanus shot as it hadn't been 10 years yet since his last shot. His PPO recognized the symptoms when he went in for a stiff neck and gave him a tetanus shot, some valium and a strong antibiotic and he recovered quickly without too much trouble. Never ended up in the hospital. Tetanus is one vaccine I keep up to date on me and my kid. The kid hangs around horse stables 2 days a week and rides.

[Lexy]

It’s still not that hard to come by all the necessary equipment. And if they live in a rural area, probably far from a hospital, it’s not a bad idea to have such things at hand for minor wounds.
And, as I said, the infection was probably caused by his original outdoors wound. Tetanus lives in organic rich soil, like soil that’s been treated with manure, or where animals roam free. It’s extremely unlike that a first aid needle used for stitching was the cause.

Idk what first aid you bought but I've bought several. For work and for scouting and it's never been in one of mine. Ds has taken scout wilderness survival and there's no discussion of stitching in first aid classes nor in mine I've taken as part of CPR and first aid. Most people aren't in pre med and I say proper equipment or not these parents still have a screw loose. Anesthesia isn't all that easy to come by. That numbing spray stuff at Walgreens isn't going to cut it for stitching a wound.

That's not my point. My point is the stitching was unnecessary pain to put a kid through unless they're lost in the wilderness. I've gotten stitches and even with novacain that shit hurts. Now I might have held it closed with steri-strips until he could go to the ER. They just seem like strange people. If I nearly watched my kid die I'd be like you recommend the rest of the series? By all means doc do what you gotta.

Imagine the freaking pain they put the boy through. Their ignorance nearly cost their child his life, and left bill for a million dollars yet they learned nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[Libbylu2]

Do you mean the parents refused to give him another dose or that the hospital refused to give him another dose?

It’s rather confusing when some people say they don’t vaccinate— because we know parents don’t vaccinate- the clinic’s medical personnel vaccinates kids !

And what’s shocking is that they refused to give him another dose of the vaccine! I guess having to cough up a million bucks and seeing your kid knocking on death’s door and in extreme pain isn’t enough to knock sense into some people...

[Libbylu2]

Good. That’s what should’ve been done in this case.
If that kid had gotten a tetanus shot, he wouldn’t have gotten sick, even with the at home stitching. Unless the parents used a rusty needle they found on the backyard floor, it’s highly unlikely that the source of the infection was the stitching, especially with him being wounded outdoors, the soil being a common place for the teranus bacteria to be in.

I don’t vaccinate but when my dd needed stitches we went to the hospital and she got a tetanus shot.

It’s annoying sometimes that people don’t understand that “anti-vaxers” aren’t generally idiots.

They’re not playing with a full deck though if they don’t accept that medical personnel know more than they do . They might as well go back to using leeches to “ cure” diseases and travel by horse and buggy.

[HanSolo]

Good. That’s what should’ve been done in this case.
If that kid had gotten a tetanus shot, he wouldn’t have gotten sick, even with the at home stitching. Unless the parents used a rusty needle they found on the backyard floor, it’s highly unlikely that the source of the infection was the stitching, especially with him being wounded outdoors, the soil being a common place for the teranus bacteria to be in.

It’s annoying sometimes that people don’t understand that “anti-vaxers” aren’t generally idiots.

They’re not playing with a full deck though if they don’t accept that medical personnel know more than they do . They might as well go back to using leeches to “ cure” diseases and travel by horse and buggy.

Why did you quote me to say that?

[cgd5112]

The family is lucky the child did not get necrotizing fasciitis and that the medical care he did get saved his life.