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I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:21 pm
by lunarprancer
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... -neverland
Both men had also in the past stated under oath that Jackson never behaved inappropriately.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:24 pm
by jas
It's all about money.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:50 pm
by Francee89
Even if Scarry doesn’t believe they were molested, his concluding paragraphs include:

“They're wistful. They remember no longer feeling like they were his “favorite."

...

Leaving Neverland doesn’t look like an expose on sexual abuse. It looks like a break-up story”

You’re not in a good place if your argument is that an adult never physically molested children, they just fostered and encouraged incredibly unhealthy pseudo-romantic relationships with them - same bed sleepovers, jewellery, vacations and perks - that clearly have had negative lasting impacts on them.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:55 pm
by Momto2boys973
It’s all so very confusing. I’m all for victims seeking closure, but TBH, when that happens only after the alleged perpetrator dies, it makes me doubt. I don’t know if Michael Jackson was an active pedophile or not. He definitely had issues since he himself didn’t have much of a childhood, so it’s pretty likely that he was. I still think it’s a cheap move to throw around accusations when the accused cannot defend himself anymore.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:12 pm
by hotspice58
This. He definitely had issues but I'm not on board with him being a molester. and I have to question the parents of the kids; where were they?? or were they looking at this as a pay day...
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:55 pm It’s all so very confusing. I’m all for victims seeking closure, but TBH, when that happens only after the alleged perpetrator dies, it makes me doubt. I don’t know if Michael Jackson was an active pedophile or not. He definitely had issues since he himself didn’t have much of a childhood, so it’s pretty likely that he was. I still think it’s a cheap move to throw around accusations when the accused cannot defend himself anymore.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:43 pm
by Momto2boys973
That’s another good point. I’m sorry, but if any grown man wants to be my son’s buddy and have sleepover I would say no way in hell. How many of these parents turned a blind eye because it was Michael Jackson and it meant money? Are any of them being treated like pimps now, or also made into victims?
hotspice58 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:12 pm This. He definitely had issues but I'm not on board with him being a molester. and I have to question the parents of the kids; where were they?? or were they looking at this as a pay day...
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:55 pm It’s all so very confusing. I’m all for victims seeking closure, but TBH, when that happens only after the alleged perpetrator dies, it makes me doubt. I don’t know if Michael Jackson was an active pedophile or not. He definitely had issues since he himself didn’t have much of a childhood, so it’s pretty likely that he was. I still think it’s a cheap move to throw around accusations when the accused cannot defend himself anymore.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:01 pm
by Pjmm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:43 pm That’s another good point. I’m sorry, but if any grown man wants to be my son’s buddy and have sleepover I would say no way in hell. How many of these parents turned a blind eye because it was Michael Jackson and it meant money? Are any of them being treated like pimps now, or also made into victims?
hotspice58 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:12 pm This. He definitely had issues but I'm not on board with him being a molester. and I have to question the parents of the kids; where were they?? or were they looking at this as a pay day...
Momto2boys973 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:55 pm It’s all so very confusing. I’m all for victims seeking closure, but TBH, when that happens only after the alleged perpetrator dies, it makes me doubt. I don’t know if Michael Jackson was an active pedophile or not. He definitely had issues since he himself didn’t have much of a childhood, so it’s pretty likely that he was. I still think it’s a cheap move to throw around accusations when the accused cannot defend himself anymore.
He probably presented it in a different way. Simply a party for these kids, maybe involving his own to put people at ease. Come to Blankets party or whatever the hell his name is. Idk about Jackson but the man is dead now. Let the supposed victims have peace. Hell let his children have peace. This documentary can't be easy for them.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:03 pm
by carterscutie85
Those rooms were so hidden, that even the FBI couldn't find them after investigating for TEN YEARS.

Give me a break.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:05 pm
by owl0210
I'm almost finished with Part 1 and absolutely believe these guys. Michael was a known pedo back in the 90's it was no secret. The details that they go into are absolutely horrific and shame on their parents for allowing their children to sleep with a grown man. They denied the allegations when they were younger because they were scared like most victims do.

Re: I don’t believe Michael Jackson’s accusers in ‘Leaving Neverland’

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:19 pm
by Lexy
owl0210 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:05 pm I'm almost finished with Part 1 and absolutely believe these guys. Michael was a known pedo back in the 90's it was no secret. The details that they go into are absolutely horrific and shame on their parents for allowing their children to sleep with a grown man. They denied the allegations when they were younger because they were scared like most victims do.
I agree. It was so hard to watch and you could see the pain in their faces. The same with the R Kelly victims.