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BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:45 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:31 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:07 am

Right... Sanctuary cities purport to break federal law. Not state laws.

When it comes to guns, laws aren't being broken yet because there aren't federal laws enacted yet that they're threatening to break. Like laws requiring law enforcement to start confiscating guns door to door...

When it comes to immigration, those cities are actively not informing ICE about leads to illegal immigrants that they are supposed to report.
I think I will defer to myself since I am in the business.
Cool. I'm in one of the businesses discussed in this post too. Still though... Sanctuary cities are fighting against federal laws they see as unfair or unconstitutional. State laws are often then created to combat those laws. It can also mean a city going against state laws.
You are essentially wrong. State laws can not go against federal laws so state laws are not being passed to combat federal law.
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Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:19 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:45 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:31 am

I think I will defer to myself since I am in the business.
Cool. I'm in one of the businesses discussed in this post too. Still though... Sanctuary cities are fighting against federal laws they see as unfair or unconstitutional. State laws are often then created to combat those laws. It can also mean a city going against state laws.
You are essentially wrong. State laws can not go against federal laws so state laws are not being passed to combat federal law.
That's the point of them...

Its a pushback against your statement.


Weed - Federally illegal, states: we're selling it anyways.
Immigrants - Federally illegal, states : were giving them protections anyways.
Guns - Federal might make laws that states don't like, states: nope.
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BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:25 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:19 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:45 am

Cool. I'm in one of the businesses discussed in this post too. Still though... Sanctuary cities are fighting against federal laws they see as unfair or unconstitutional. State laws are often then created to combat those laws. It can also mean a city going against state laws.
You are essentially wrong. State laws can not go against federal laws so state laws are not being passed to combat federal law.
That's the point of them...

Its a pushback against your statement.


Weed - Federally illegal, states: we're selling it anyways.
Immigrants - Federally illegal, states : were giving them protections anyways.
Guns - Federal might make laws that states don't like, states: nope.
Marijuana doesn't have federal regulations the sellers must conform to and a federal license to obtain with a phone book size book of regulations to adhere to. Massive difference. Also the reason weed is contained in each state. If you have a weed store in Michigan you can't call up a grower in Colorado and order a pound of weed and get it shipped to your store. Then you are engaging in interstate commerce.
If the feds legalize it, it will be a whole new ballgame.
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Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:38 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:25 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:19 am

You are essentially wrong. State laws can not go against federal laws so state laws are not being passed to combat federal law.
That's the point of them...

Its a pushback against your statement.


Weed - Federally illegal, states: we're selling it anyways.
Immigrants - Federally illegal, states : were giving them protections anyways.
Guns - Federal might make laws that states don't like, states: nope.
Marijuana doesn't have federal regulations the sellers must conform to and a federal license to obtain with a phone book size book of regulations to adhere to. Massive difference. Also the reason weed is contained in each state. If you have a weed store in Michigan you can't call up a grower in Colorado and order a pound of weed and get it shipped to your store. Then you are engaging in interstate commerce.
If the feds legalize it, it will be a whole new ballgame.
Yes...we do have federal licences to obtain first, including federal narcotics licences, FDA inspections, and our regulations are indeed bigger than a phone book.

Taxes suck because its pretty much illegal to take deductions without breaking federal laws even if state laws allow it...but there are states that have certain partnerships that allow product to cross state lines.
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BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:46 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:38 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:25 am

That's the point of them...

Its a pushback against your statement.


Weed - Federally illegal, states: we're selling it anyways.
Immigrants - Federally illegal, states : were giving them protections anyways.
Guns - Federal might make laws that states don't like, states: nope.
Marijuana doesn't have federal regulations the sellers must conform to and a federal license to obtain with a phone book size book of regulations to adhere to. Massive difference. Also the reason weed is contained in each state. If you have a weed store in Michigan you can't call up a grower in Colorado and order a pound of weed and get it shipped to your store. Then you are engaging in interstate commerce.
If the feds legalize it, it will be a whole new ballgame.
Yes...we do have federal licences to obtain first, including federal narcotics licences, FDA inspections, and our regulations are indeed bigger than a phone book.

Taxes suck because its pretty much illegal to take deductions without breaking federal laws even if state laws allow it...but there are states that have certain partnerships that allow product to cross state lines.
No you do not.
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And there are no state partnerships that are legal, because then you have entered interstate commerce.
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Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:56 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:46 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:38 am

Marijuana doesn't have federal regulations the sellers must conform to and a federal license to obtain with a phone book size book of regulations to adhere to. Massive difference. Also the reason weed is contained in each state. If you have a weed store in Michigan you can't call up a grower in Colorado and order a pound of weed and get it shipped to your store. Then you are engaging in interstate commerce.
If the feds legalize it, it will be a whole new ballgame.
Yes...we do have federal licences to obtain first, including federal narcotics licences, FDA inspections, and our regulations are indeed bigger than a phone book.

Taxes suck because its pretty much illegal to take deductions without breaking federal laws even if state laws allow it...but there are states that have certain partnerships that allow product to cross state lines.
No you do not.
Lol... Yeah. We do.

FDA checks processing plants for health hazards, And while the narcotics licences are issued by the state, we have to have federal oversight including registration, background checks and ultimately approval of legal acceptability before the state licence moves forward.
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Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:05 am And there are no state partnerships that are legal, because then you have entered interstate commerce.
Meaning you can have a store in Oklahoma, and have most of your clients living in Arkansas, and if they get the right paperwork they can cross state lines to go home after buying from your store.
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BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:12 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:56 am
BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:46 am

Yes...we do have federal licences to obtain first, including federal narcotics licences, FDA inspections, and our regulations are indeed bigger than a phone book.

Taxes suck because its pretty much illegal to take deductions without breaking federal laws even if state laws allow it...but there are states that have certain partnerships that allow product to cross state lines.
No you do not.
Lol... Yeah. We do.

FDA checks processing plants for health hazards, And while the narcotics licences are issued by the state, we have to have federal oversight including registration, background checks and ultimately approval of legal acceptability before the state licence moves forward.
No, you do not. Federal FDA does not check. The state does. There is NO federal licensing. EVERYTHING is state level. The feds do not license to sell what they classify as an illegal drug, nor are there any federally approved uses for medicinal either.
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BobCobbMagob wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:13 am
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:05 am And there are no state partnerships that are legal, because then you have entered interstate commerce.
Meaning you can have a store in Oklahoma, and have most of your clients living in Arkansas, and if they get the right paperwork they can cross state lines to go home after buying from your store.
Not at all true.
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