Teen Allegedly Threw Boy, 8, Off 31-Foot-High Waterslide Platform/Had been violent before

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I will add that I am fine with providing financial assistance via a robust social program to help families with SN children. I’m all about social programs in most cases. I think paying for institutional care for this kid would have been way better than now paying for prosecuting him for hurting this child.
RedBottoms wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:50 am
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:35 am This kid didn’t accidentally hurt someone. He picked a young child up, and intentionally threw him thirty feet to the ground, knowing it would hurt him. He could have KILLED him. He should not be inflicted on the public with or without an aide. Hell, if the aide had been there he might have thrown her. He is too dangerous.
RedBottoms wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:25 am

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.
We are not his psychiatrist or doctor so we don't know for sure what mental capacity he has to know or understand things like death or injury or gravity.

but I agree if they knew he was that volatile he should not have been there in the first place. I know my son can't handle long lines so we avoid crowded amusement parks. Or we get him a disability pass that helps him avoid lines.

Someone definitely failed somewhere. I am looking at the blame not just going on the special needs person though. The parents and the aide have some blame here too. Maybe more of the blame than even him.

And the thing is though if someone cannot be out in society-then its our job as a society to help the family manage that by our tax dollars paying for respite care or a group home etc. We can't expect parents to have to watch their special needs adult 24/7 but still somehow figure out how to work a job to pay bills.

The system is broken.
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Guest wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:01 am
RedBottoms wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:25 am
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:18 am First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.
The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.
You have no clue what the aide was hired to do.
Really? I can guarantee she wasn’t hired to be at the other side of the park.
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He admitted he knew it was wrong, but he did it anyway. There was no accident or misunderstanding here. He got impatient and purposefully threw an 8-year-old 32 feet down. The fact his charge is so minor is really upsetting to me. His aide should definitely be fired for leaving him alone, but the blame doesn't fall solely on them either. There is nothing to say they could have stopped him even if they had been there. This 18-year-old decided to do what he did, that's on him and he should be punished for it.
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How he wasn't charged with attempted murder is beyond me. Based on the news story, he clearly understood what he was doing and the possible consequences. If that was my child that he threw, I'd be out for blood.
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I would sue whoever's supposed to be responsible for that kid for all they were worth.
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Awful! He should be charged with attempted murder!
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Victoriousmom wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:21 pm IDGAF if he's SN or not. That POS knew WTF he was doing.
I agree. That little boy could have been killed.
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Baconqueen13 wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:39 pm There is so much failure in this post from the parents to the health aide man to the man himself. Unfortunately it is the 8 year old boy and his family who suffer as a result and I doubt there will be many consequences for the man's actions and his criminal behavior will only escalate.
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RedBottoms wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:50 am
Reedusstalker wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:29 am His ass should be in prison. I dont give a shit if hes "disabled". Disabled people can be and should be taught right from wrong.
It depends. Some mentally disabled people don't mature beyond a 2 or 3 year olds frame of mind.
He understood it was wrong, understood he shouldn't do it, and understood the kid will get hurt. That's beyond toddler understanding.
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LoveAll3 wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:58 pm Awful! He should be charged with attempted murder!
Yes, he should.
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