perhaps I am the devil in heels

[stilltfez]

Turn off the wifi because your kid won't mind either of his parents?

I've done it. I didn't have to do it often. I've also taken away controllers because ds was getting addicted. In this case given the kid is seventeen I'd let him take whatever punishment the school gives him for tardiness. In my day it was in school suspension. But that fight was unnecessary.and op didn't help matters.

I lucked out, my kids didn't have cell phones, WI-fi or even pagers (I'm that old) but I knew when they were not listening or disrespectful it was my job as Mom to rein them in. So I'd get 'em where it hurt. My younger lost the power cords to his game systems, my oldest lost the use of the phone. They learned early on that rules were for following, disrespect was not allowed and good behavior was rewarded. OP's son was disrespectful to both parents and disobeyed. I think Dad should have kept his cool but obviously there was no backup for Dad in the situation and the teen took advantage.

[jas]

What a damn train wreck. Your son is a disrespectful ass. Apples and trees and all of that. This isn't going to end well and legally you have no claim to be in the house at this time if there is an active lease.

"I got my house with all my kids..." no. You don't. You don't have custody.

[Anonymous 5]

Based on the story that you just told of your DS17, how can you say that?

I don't know if your story is real or if it is a fictional troll story. But if it is real, this is my wish for you: that you get out from and away from these men in your life & that you find a stable living so that you can provide a happy/enjoyable/fulfilling/peaceful life for you and your children.

Do you have friends and/or any support network?

You guys only heard a very small portion of my life.

That is all we need to know to see you are a shitty parent.

Ask yourself this. Do you think your kids have an ideal life? If you could do it over would you make the exact same choice to put them in this situation? If you could make changes would you honestly pick this? Of course not. Your kids deserve so much better.

You have fucked up your life and their lives. Don't even try to deny that.

No you really can't judge off of that. My kids are really good and well taken care of. They are truly happy kids.

[Anonymous 5]

Excellent job summarizing. And your last line about how she subtly threw in that she got what many said she'd never get makes me think she's just trolling.

So, wait... your ex is now homeless, and you are staying in his house? How does that work? Why didn't you leave instead of kicking him out of his own house?

According to her, she owns the house and rents it to him in exchange for her not having to pay child support for her kids. He also pays all the bills and pays her to pay his bills. If she left, she would have nowhere to go, plus she can't just take the two sons because he has custody of them.

On the off chance this is real, she is the queen of one sided stories. There have been too many times that she has told stories that make her look like the angel while everyone else is just horrid, until she posts a text or other detail that shows the truth of the situation. Her son just went through a emotionally traumatic experience, the father of her two kids who has raised them full time until right now is missing after having an out of character behavioral change, and she's on here all just talking about herself and how everything is about her even though she says she did nothing wrong, and subtly dropping that she got what people said she couldn't have and now has all the kids.

[Anonymous 7]

Your life is a complete train wreck. You need to go to counseling to find out why you keep picking crappy men and even worse fathers and you need to be single for awhile. Find your own place or take the steps to legally take back the house you claim is yours. Get a full time job then file for child support from both of those men. Between working, child support, and what you have mentioned you saved you should be more then fine to be on your own. Do not go looking for another guy well anything serious until your children are older focus on them now. Your ex is abusive and I will say that I can't believe you would leave your kids with him and I don't believe this was the first time he was abusive so you can save all of that.

[Anonymous 5]

If when you met your EX he was a landlord, doesn't that say that he owns property and would have never needed to rent from someone? Why would he not have just lived in one of his own rentals????

Yes before our second son was in the picture. My ex was my landlord when I first met him lol. I was young and dumb.

Not that this matters; but I'm curious. Did you ever DIVORCE him?

I told him to leave but I didn't expect him to stay gone. The house is in my name but he is the renter.

[Pjmm]

Well the losers of MC will have a field day with this post as many of them have your life history memorized & will recite it to anyone who will listen.

I guess you're right. I've nothing to say except it makes not one bit of sense. Why would he leave his house and not return? Never mind I'm not sure I even want to know.

You certainly want to know, that's why you asked

I do but on the other hand I think I'll regret asking.

[Pjmm]

Turn off the wifi because your kid won't mind either of his parents?

I've done it. I didn't have to do it often. I've also taken away controllers because ds was getting addicted. In this case given the kid is seventeen I'd let him take whatever punishment the school gives him for tardiness. In my day it was in school suspension. But that fight was unnecessary.and op didn't help matters.

I lucked out, my kids didn't have cell phones, WI-fi or even pagers (I'm that old) but I knew when they were not listening or disrespectful it was my job as Mom to rein them in. So I'd get 'em where it hurt. My younger lost the power cords to his game systems, my oldest lost the use of the phone. They learned early on that rules were for following, disrespect was not allowed and good behavior was rewarded. OP's son was disrespectful to both parents and disobeyed. I think Dad should have kept his cool but obviously there was no backup for Dad in the situation and the teen took advantage.

And given the op's situation, assuming it's real, I don't blame him. He is in an unstable situation and nearly an adult. And here I am getting sucked in. I said I really didn't want to and now I have to eat my words.

[Anonymous 3]

So, wait... your ex is now homeless, and you are staying in his house? How does that work? Why didn't you leave instead of kicking him out of his own house?

According to her, she owns the house and rents it to him in exchange for her not having to pay child support for her kids. He also pays all the bills and pays her to pay his bills. If she left, she would have nowhere to go, plus she can't just take the two sons because he has custody of them.

On the off chance this is real, she is the queen of one sided stories. There have been too many times that she has told stories that make her look like the angel while everyone else is just horrid, until she posts a text or other detail that shows the truth of the situation. Her son just went through a emotionally traumatic experience, the father of her two kids who has raised them full time until right now is missing after having an out of character behavioral change, and she's on here all just talking about herself and how everything is about her even though she says she did nothing wrong, and subtly dropping that she got what people said she couldn't have and now has all the kids.

Who is the "we"?

[Anonymous 8]

I want to hear the long story about why you left SO