Drunk Man Shot by Police as He was Running Away

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Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:37 am
AZLizardLady wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:59 pm Realizing before I am writing this that I can easily confirm this on my own, but my son just told me about THIS story only a half-hour ago and said that the drunk man attempted to grab a taser gun from one of the officer's? Is this true?

However, why did they have to shoot him? How many times did they shoot him and WHERE (location on his body) did they shoot him?
He did get a taser off of one of the cops, ran then turned around and aimed it at them. It was dark, how were the cops to know for sure what was in his hand. That was what was reported about an hour ago. Now, the article is reading that he was shot while fighting with the cop over the stun gun.

Maybe there will be something a little clearer to understand tomorrow.
I am going to be on the look-out for hopefully more information about this.

Thanks!
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jessilin0113 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:24 am
Mommamia wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:33 pm
jessilin0113 wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:23 pm

I don't think they needed to arrest him. Take him home and let him sober up and then issue a citation. No need to escalate what was originally a pretty mild situation. A lot of shit we call the cops for could be decriminalized, including this.
Reality, Jes, Reality. It is not any cops job to take drunk drivers home then visit them the next day to give them a citation. They don't have enough time to do what they have to do, let alone play nice to some drunk. Drunk driving is against the law. If you fail a field sobriety test, it is their job to haul your drunk ass to jail, ticket you, then you call someone to come get you out of jail.

I honestly don't see how you function in the real world. Or do you?
They dont have enough time to do what they need to do (solve violent crimes, which they are terrible at), *because* they are called for stupid shit like this. Jail is overused. This guy wasn't driving drunk at the time, let the fire department or paramedics take him home, and mail him a F***ing ticket. Then a dude isn't dead and the cops can focus on actual crimes.
Get the hell out of that dream world you live in. It is the cop's job to arrest drunk drivers, whether they are passed out in a car or driving down the road. It is not the Firefighters nor Paramedics job to cart drunk drivers home. Or would you rather the cops let him sleep it off, then let him drive home still under the influence and kill somebody in a horrific accident., which wouldn't really be an accident.

If I were having a heart attack or fell and broke a leg and couldn't get a paramedic to come because he was off doing something that is not his job, I'd sue the crap out of the city's fire dept.paramedics. Same goes if my house burned to the ground while the firemen were off taking a drunk home.
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Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:37 am
AZLizardLady wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:59 pm Realizing before I am writing this that I can easily confirm this on my own, but my son just told me about THIS story only a half-hour ago and said that the drunk man attempted to grab a taser gun from one of the officer's? Is this true?

However, why did they have to shoot him? How many times did they shoot him and WHERE (location on his body) did they shoot him?
He did get a taser off of one of the cops, ran then turned around and aimed it at them. It was dark, how were the cops to know for sure what was in his hand. That was what was reported about an hour ago. Now, the article is reading that he was shot while fighting with the cop over the stun gun.

Maybe there will be something a little clearer to understand tomorrow.
He was searched after being removed from the vehicle. They knew he was unarmed other than the taser. And the video clearly shows him running away from the officers when he was shot to death.
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jessilin0113 wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:53 pm Why does a drunk dude sleeping in his car warrant an armed cop showing up?
He was in the car lane to get food and he passed out so technically he was driving.
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Mommamia wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:49 am
jessilin0113 wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:24 am
Mommamia wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:33 pm

Reality, Jes, Reality. It is not any cops job to take drunk drivers home then visit them the next day to give them a citation. They don't have enough time to do what they have to do, let alone play nice to some drunk. Drunk driving is against the law. If you fail a field sobriety test, it is their job to haul your drunk ass to jail, ticket you, then you call someone to come get you out of jail.

I honestly don't see how you function in the real world. Or do you?
They dont have enough time to do what they need to do (solve violent crimes, which they are terrible at), *because* they are called for stupid shit like this. Jail is overused. This guy wasn't driving drunk at the time, let the fire department or paramedics take him home, and mail him a F***ing ticket. Then a dude isn't dead and the cops can focus on actual crimes.
Get the hell out of that dream world you live in. It is the cop's job to arrest drunk drivers, whether they are passed out in a car or driving down the road. It is not the Firefighters nor Paramedics job to cart drunk drivers home. Or would you rather the cops let him sleep it off, then let him drive home still under the influence and kill somebody in a horrific accident., which wouldn't really be an accident.

If I were having a heart attack or fell and broke a leg and couldn't get a paramedic to come because he was off doing something that is not his job, I'd sue the crap out of the city's fire dept.paramedics. Same goes if my house burned to the ground while the firemen were off taking a drunk home.
You are missing the point that it doesn't *need* to be their job. If they get a call about a dude sleeping in his car they could pass it on to some other community agency, have wendy's call a F***ing tow truck, and stay safe and let a civilian live. Even cops say we give them too much to do. This wasn't necessary.
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Lemons wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:13 am
jessilin0113 wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:53 pm Why does a drunk dude sleeping in his car warrant an armed cop showing up?
He was in the car lane to get food and he passed out so technically he was driving.
Call a tow truck for the car and a cab for the drunk guy and mail him a citation.
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Since it was apparently a Wendy's where this man was found asleep in the drive-thru, sure...why not....burn it down!

https://www.wvlt.tv/2020/06/14/atlanta- ... black-man/

What a sick, f'd up society we're living in all the way around. :/
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I believe that any time a cop or anyone else shoots someone in the back it should be considered murder. Police should never be judge jury and executioner and should never be let off easily when they kill someone for any crime. Unless there is an active shoot out and their lives are truly in danger at that moment they should never use lethal rounds. Hold the police to the same standard as regular citizens. If I as a regular citizen shot a man while he was running away even if he had a taser he was attempting to use it would not be classified as self defense and I would be charged with at least manslaughter because it’s not self defense when you are shooting someone in the back.
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The cop that shot him has been fired and the other is on administrative leave during the investigation.
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Lemons wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:45 pm
pinkbutterfly66 wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:56 pm
Lemons wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:30 pm

To be fair though, if the suspect had been able to taser the cop and incapacitate him he could then get a hold of his real gun.
There were TWO cops, so unless the other cop was not paying attention, I don't think there is much of a chance. And the guy was running away.
He turned around and aimed the taser gun at the cop. When someone aims a weapon at a cop that’s what happens, right or wrong. He went from unarmed and harmless to armed and dangerous. Police gun down people who aim for them and race isn’t an issue at this point. They’ve shot people dead just holding a knife.


And that shit needs to stop.
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