left leaning poll finds majority in favor of citizenship question on census

[Valentina327]

False.

“The last time a citizenship question was among the census questions for all U.S. households was in 1950. That form asked where each person was born and in a follow-up question asked, "If foreign born — Is he naturalized?"

https://www.npr.org/ 2018/03/27/597436512/fact-check-has-citizenship-been-a-standard-census-question

I
Since 1820 ours been asked in some form or fashion.

Not every year on ALL census. Let's not play in exact words. It's been asked about for 100 years.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

I believe the long form actually used the word citizen. The forms were changed in 2010 with no long forms. This article does address that Obama did indeed remove the question.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.co ... -new%3famp

Lost in this partisan uproar is that a citizenship question has appeared in some form or another on censuses throughout our history. Indeed, it was only removed entirely in 2010 by President Obama, and its roots stretch deep into the founding era. It's worth detailing the history to dispel all the false narratives.

Furthermore, knowing the number of citizens in any district will help reduce voter fraud by providing a more complete picture of the eligible voters in a district. If there are, say, 300,000 U.S. citizens in a district, and 350,000 turn out to vote in an election, we'll know there's a problem. Put simply, it is likely the Obama administration's failure to ask this question has harmed minority communities by making voter fraud harder to detect. The objections to the citizenship question assume it will decrease participation in Census Bureau surveys, but no such evidence exists. In fact, when President Obama removed the question in 2010, there was no sudden increase in reporting population.

Exactly why our little red friends in the government are fighting so hard against it.

[Francee89]

I
Since 1820 ours been asked in some form or fashion.

Not every year on ALL census. Let's not play in exact words. It's been asked about for 100 years.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

Why not play in exact words? Words mean things. It hasn’t been asked on all - or even most - censuses since 1950, and it’s simply flat out wrong to say “it was on there for 70 years. It only came off because Obama took it off”, as the previous poster did, or "this is a question that's been included in every census since 1965, with the exception of 2010, when it was removed”, as noted liar Sarah Huckabee Sanders did.

It's been on some or all for the last 100 years

Look at the timeline I posted. Since you can't click on the linkb here is the text.

Some or all for the last 100 years.

How The ‘Citizenship Question’ Changed Over The Decades
A question about citizenship or naturalization has been included on the census for either all households or selective households, on and off, since 1820.
1820
Heads of household were asked how many foreign-born people "not naturalized" were in their homes.
1830
Heads of household were asked how many white "foreigners not naturalized" were in their homes.
1870
"Is the person a male citizen of the United States of 21 years or upwards?" was asked of all people.
1890
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1900
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1910
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1920
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born people.
1930
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born people.
1940
Census workers asked about the citizenship status of foreign-born people.
1950
"Is he naturalized?" was asked of foreign-born people.
1970
"Is this person naturalized?" was asked of foreign-born people in 1 out of 20 households.
1980
"Is this person a naturalized citizen of the United States?" was asked of foreign-born people in 1 out of 5 households.
1990
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" was asked of all people in 1 out of 6 households.
2000
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" was asked of all people in about 1 out of 6 households.
2020
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" may be asked of all people in every household.

Cool. Thanks for confirming that Obama didn’t remove anything (it’s been asked of a small minority at points since, and the long-form census was replaced in 2010 by the ACS, which asks about citizenship), and that it hasn’t been asked of all households since 1950. Sanders was lying, as per usual.

[Francee89]

False.

“The last time a citizenship question was among the census questions for all U.S. households was in 1950. That form asked where each person was born and in a follow-up question asked, "If foreign born — Is he naturalized?"

https://www.npr.org/ 2018/03/27/597436512/fact-check-has-citizenship-been-a-standard-census-question

I
Since 1820 ours been asked in some form or fashion.

Not every year on ALL census. Let's not play in exact words. It's been asked about for 100 years.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

I believe the long form actually used the word citizen. The forms were changed in 2010 with no long forms. This article does address that Obama did indeed remove the question.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.co ... -new%3famp

Lost in this partisan uproar is that a citizenship question has appeared in some form or another on censuses throughout our history. Indeed, it was only removed entirely in 2010 by President Obama, and its roots stretch deep into the founding era. It's worth detailing the history to dispel all the false narratives.

Furthermore, knowing the number of citizens in any district will help reduce voter fraud by providing a more complete picture of the eligible voters in a district. If there are, say, 300,000 U.S. citizens in a district, and 350,000 turn out to vote in an election, we'll know there's a problem. Put simply, it is likely the Obama administration's failure to ask this question has harmed minority communities by making voter fraud harder to detect. The objections to the citizenship question assume it will decrease participation in Census Bureau surveys, but no such evidence exists. In fact, when President Obama removed the question in 2010, there was no sudden increase in reporting population.

That “article” is an opinion piece by a Republican Attorney General, LOL!

[Francee89]

I
Since 1820 ours been asked in some form or fashion.

Not every year on ALL census. Let's not play in exact words. It's been asked about for 100 years.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

I believe the long form actually used the word citizen. The forms were changed in 2010 with no long forms. This article does address that Obama did indeed remove the question.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.co ... -new%3famp

Lost in this partisan uproar is that a citizenship question has appeared in some form or another on censuses throughout our history. Indeed, it was only removed entirely in 2010 by President Obama, and its roots stretch deep into the founding era. It's worth detailing the history to dispel all the false narratives.

Furthermore, knowing the number of citizens in any district will help reduce voter fraud by providing a more complete picture of the eligible voters in a district. If there are, say, 300,000 U.S. citizens in a district, and 350,000 turn out to vote in an election, we'll know there's a problem. Put simply, it is likely the Obama administration's failure to ask this question has harmed minority communities by making voter fraud harder to detect. The objections to the citizenship question assume it will decrease participation in Census Bureau surveys, but no such evidence exists. In fact, when President Obama removed the question in 2010, there was no sudden increase in reporting population.

Exactly why our little red friends in the government are fighting so hard against it.

The Republican Attorney General of Texas asserting something in an opinion piece doesn’t make it a fact, lol.

[Valentina327]

Why not play in exact words? Words mean things. It hasn’t been asked on all - or even most - censuses since 1950, and it’s simply flat out wrong to say “it was on there for 70 years. It only came off because Obama took it off”, as the previous poster did, or "this is a question that's been included in every census since 1965, with the exception of 2010, when it was removed”, as noted liar Sarah Huckabee Sanders did.

It's been on some or all for the last 100 years

Look at the timeline I posted. Since you can't click on the linkb here is the text.

Some or all for the last 100 years.

How The ‘Citizenship Question’ Changed Over The Decades
A question about citizenship or naturalization has been included on the census for either all households or selective households, on and off, since 1820.
1820
Heads of household were asked how many foreign-born people "not naturalized" were in their homes.
1830
Heads of household were asked how many white "foreigners not naturalized" were in their homes.
1870
"Is the person a male citizen of the United States of 21 years or upwards?" was asked of all people.
1890
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1900
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1910
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1920
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born people.
1930
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born people.
1940
Census workers asked about the citizenship status of foreign-born people.
1950
"Is he naturalized?" was asked of foreign-born people.
1970
"Is this person naturalized?" was asked of foreign-born people in 1 out of 20 households.
1980
"Is this person a naturalized citizen of the United States?" was asked of foreign-born people in 1 out of 5 households.
1990
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" was asked of all people in 1 out of 6 households.
2000
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" was asked of all people in about 1 out of 6 households.
2020
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" may be asked of all people in every household.

Cool. Thanks for confirming that Obama didn’t remove anything (it’s been asked of a small minority at points since, and the long-form census was replaced in 2010 by the ACS, which asks about citizenship), and that it hasn’t been asked of all households since 1950. Sanders was lying, as per usual.

What exactly did she lie about?

[Francee89]

It's been on some or all for the last 100 years

Look at the timeline I posted. Since you can't click on the linkb here is the text.

Some or all for the last 100 years.

How The ‘Citizenship Question’ Changed Over The Decades
A question about citizenship or naturalization has been included on the census for either all households or selective households, on and off, since 1820.
1820
Heads of household were asked how many foreign-born people "not naturalized" were in their homes.
1830
Heads of household were asked how many white "foreigners not naturalized" were in their homes.
1870
"Is the person a male citizen of the United States of 21 years or upwards?" was asked of all people.
1890
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1900
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1910
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born men age 21 or older.
1920
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born people.
1930
Census workers asked about the naturalization status of foreign-born people.
1940
Census workers asked about the citizenship status of foreign-born people.
1950
"Is he naturalized?" was asked of foreign-born people.
1970
"Is this person naturalized?" was asked of foreign-born people in 1 out of 20 households.
1980
"Is this person a naturalized citizen of the United States?" was asked of foreign-born people in 1 out of 5 households.
1990
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" was asked of all people in 1 out of 6 households.
2000
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" was asked of all people in about 1 out of 6 households.
2020
"Is this person a citizen of the United States?" may be asked of all people in every household.

Cool. Thanks for confirming that Obama didn’t remove anything (it’s been asked of a small minority at points since, and the long-form census was replaced in 2010 by the ACS, which asks about citizenship), and that it hasn’t been asked of all households since 1950. Sanders was lying, as per usual.

What exactly did she lie about?

Sanders: “This is a question that's been included in every census since 1965, with the exception of 2010, when it was removed“.

It’s been asked in a small minority of censuses after 1950, not on every census. Nor was it removed in 2010 - the long-form census was simply done away with as it’s been replaced by the American Community Survey.

[Della]

It was on there for 70 years. It only came off because Obama took it off. The democrats want it to stay off because districts are drawn according to population. That means more representatives for areas with large illegal immigrant population. Honestly districts should be drawn according to legal citizen population.

Obama was president in 1950?

Yes, he was! Did you miss it?

Citizenship in some form or fashion has been asked about since 1820.

See timeline below.

And this is from our little red friends at NPR.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

It has, but not in the way the previous poster claimed.

Any source you disagree with you seem to mention "red friends". Are you concerned about the upper echelon of our government perhaps being in cahoots with the real reds?

[jessilin0113]

People in favor of this question are shooting themselves in the foot. For one, there are far more accurate ways of figuring out who lives where than the census. For two, the census is used to allocate federal funds for things like schools and hospitals. If there is an undercount of residents because of this question, that is less money for places that will have all if the same citizens still using the same resources.

[Valentina327]

Obama was president in 1950?

Yes, he was! Did you miss it?

Citizenship in some form or fashion has been asked about since 1820.

See timeline below.

And this is from our little red friends at NPR.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

It has, but not in the way the previous poster claimed.

Any source you disagree with you seem to mention "red friends". Are you concerned about the upper echelon of our government perhaps being in cahoots with the real reds?

I reference the very clear socialist/communist push that's coming from the left at every turn. If socialism is so great, they should relocate. I hear Venezuela is nice this time of year.

[Della]

Yes, he was! Did you miss it?

Citizenship in some form or fashion has been asked about since 1820.

See timeline below.

And this is from our little red friends at NPR.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/23/63056291 ... -questions

It has, but not in the way the previous poster claimed.

Any source you disagree with you seem to mention "red friends". Are you concerned about the upper echelon of our government perhaps being in cahoots with the real reds?

I reference the very clear socialist/communist push that's coming from the left at every turn. If socialism is so great, they should relocate. I hear Venezuela is nice this time of year.

I see the socialist push (I disagree with Sanders and his ideas), but I don't recall seeing a push toward communism.