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Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:32 am
by TheQueenOfEverything
There are forms of female circumcision that are very similar to - even less invasive than - male circumcision. Often just a small nick as part of a religious ritual. That is what is most likely to occur in the US. And circumcision of males outside the Jewish religion was popularized by a doctor who was trying to combat the “problem” of masturbation in young males.
FTR I’m not a fan of circumcision of infants of either gender. Just pointing out that they aren’t that different, and as such this ruling is legally sound.
Lexy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:22 am
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:45 am
Why? We allow male genital mutilation.
Lexy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:24 am
It is unbelievable to me they would allow this procedure in this country.
Female circumcision is to control the sexuality of the female. You are comparing apples and oranges.
Female genital mutilation is classified into four types:
Type I: Also known as clitoridectomy, this type consists of partial or total removal of the clitoris and/or its prepuce.
Type II: Also known as excision, the clitoris and labia minora are partially or totally removed, with or without excision of the labia majora.
Type III: The most severe form, it is also known as infibulation or pharaonic type. The procedure consists of narrowing the vaginal orifice with creation of a covering seal by cutting and appositioning the labia minora and/or labia majora, with or without removal of the clitoris. The appositioning of the wound edges consists of stitching or holding the cut areas together for a certain period of time (for example, girls’ legs are bound together), to create the covering seal. A small opening is left for urine and menstrual blood to escape. An infibulation must be opened either through penetrative sexual intercourse or surgery.
Type IV: This type consists of all other procedures to the genitalia of women for non-medical purposes, such as pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterization.
http://www.endfgm.eu/female-genital-mut ... at-is-fgm/
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:43 am
by Deleted User 473
12skipafew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:06 am
Thanks for pointing that out, I will change it to any races, religions, or sexual orientations.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:39 am
Lexy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:24 am
It is unbelievable to me they would allow this procedure in this country.
This site represents a subset of society ( I don't think a good one, but...………..)
2. No personal attacks on others. Personal attacks are comments that are abusive, defamatory, or derogatory comments, name calling, and accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. No blatantly discriminatory remarks, this includes hate
speech against certain races, religions, and sexual orientation. No attacking children: There is a limit to everything.
You don't really need to look too far past that to understand.
There is speech that says Islam is fantastic
Anything less than that is now Hate Speech.
Fascists work their way methodically to silence any and all contrary thought or action
Thank you
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:44 am
by Billie.jeens
Her admission was that she was either oblivious to, or alright with, discrimination of certain groups while not allowing discrimination against others.
Can you explain how her admission harms me?
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:48 am
Oooh, smashed the hell right out of BJ’s narrative didn’t you. Nicely done.
12skipafew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:06 am
Thanks for pointing that out, I will change it to any races, religions, or sexual orientations.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:39 am
This site represents a subset of society ( I don't think a good one, but...………..)
2. No personal attacks on others. Personal attacks are comments that are abusive, defamatory, or derogatory comments, name calling, and accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. No blatantly discriminatory remarks, this includes hate
speech against certain races, religions, and sexual orientation. No attacking children: There is a limit to everything.
You don't really need to look too far past that to understand.
There is speech that says Islam is fantastic
Anything less than that is now Hate Speech.
Fascists work their way methodically to silence any and all contrary thought or action
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:53 am
by TheQueenOfEverything
I didn’t say it harmed you, I said it discredited your narrative. You pointed out that the wording of the rule appeared to allow discrimination against some groups and not others. Since that was not her intention, she thanked you for pointing it out and immediately corrected it. It was never fascism or some liberal conspiracy, just an oversight of awkward phrasing that was addressed right away.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:44 am
Her admission was that she was either oblivious to, or alright with, discrimination of certain groups while not allowing discrimination against others.
Can you explain how her admission harms me?
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:48 am
Oooh, smashed the hell right out of BJ’s narrative didn’t you. Nicely done.
12skipafew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:06 am
Thanks for pointing that out, I will change it to any races, religions, or sexual orientations.
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:57 am
by Billie.jeens
Since her remedy was to further limit dialogue - not increase dialogue -
No.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:53 am
I didn’t say it harmed you, I said it discredited your narrative. You pointed out that the wording of the rule appeared to allow discrimination against some groups and not others. Since that was not her intention, she thanked you for pointing it out and immediately corrected it. It was never fascism or some liberal conspiracy, just an oversight of awkward phrasing that was addressed right away.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:44 am
Her admission was that she was either oblivious to, or alright with, discrimination of certain groups while not allowing discrimination against others.
Can you explain how her admission harms me?
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:48 am
Oooh, smashed the hell right out of BJ’s narrative didn’t you. Nicely done.
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:58 am
by TheQueenOfEverything
Hate speech is not dialogue.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:57 am
Since her remedy was to further limit dialogue - not increase dialogue -
No.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:53 am
I didn’t say it harmed you, I said it discredited your narrative. You pointed out that the wording of the rule appeared to allow discrimination against some groups and not others. Since that was not her intention, she thanked you for pointing it out and immediately corrected it. It was never fascism or some liberal conspiracy, just an oversight of awkward phrasing that was addressed right away.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:44 am
Her admission was that she was either oblivious to, or alright with, discrimination of certain groups while not allowing discrimination against others.
Can you explain how her admission harms me?
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:14 pm
by Billie.jeens
"hate speech" is a nonexistent Construct that Fascists invented to limit thought -
It doesn't exist in the real world.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:58 am
Hate speech is not dialogue.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:57 am
Since her remedy was to further limit dialogue - not increase dialogue -
No.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:53 am
I didn’t say it harmed you, I said it discredited your narrative. You pointed out that the wording of the rule appeared to allow discrimination against some groups and not others. Since that was not her intention, she thanked you for pointing it out and immediately corrected it. It was never fascism or some liberal conspiracy, just an oversight of awkward phrasing that was addressed right away.
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:23 pm
by Deleted User 473
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:14 pm
"hate speech" is a nonexistent Construct that Fascists invented to limit thought -
It doesn't exist in the real world.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:58 am
Hate speech is not dialogue.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:57 am
Since her remedy was to further limit dialogue - not increase dialogue -
No.
More BS from you.
USLegal
Hate Speech Law and Legal Definition
Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial, ethnic and religious groups and other discrete minorities or to women.
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:24 pm
by TheQueenOfEverything
Spoken like a true bigot.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:14 pm
"hate speech" is a nonexistent Construct that Fascists invented to limit thought -
It doesn't exist in the real world.
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:58 am
Hate speech is not dialogue.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:57 am
Since her remedy was to further limit dialogue - not increase dialogue -
No.
Re: Law banning female genital mutilation ruled unconstitutional; Michigan doctors cleared of charges
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:26 pm
by Billie.jeens
Spoken like a true Fascist
TheQueenOfEverything wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:24 pm
Spoken like a true bigot.
Billie.jeens wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:14 pm
"hate speech" is a nonexistent Construct that Fascists invented to limit thought -
It doesn't exist in the real world.