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I was watching a video someone took in the crowd of people shouting “Intifada” asking what it meant… the guy in the video asked at least 20 people, none of them knew what it meant…
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:40 pm Yeah. And CEASEFIRE!!! But hey… INTIFADA!!! 🙄
It’s obvious these kids have no clue about their “cause”. They’re just the useful idiots that will pave the way for the Islamic Republic of America, Hod help us.
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:38 pm It seems like they’re taking their moves right out of Hitler’s playbook…

“We’re just trying to stop a war, so we became Nazi-like to do it…”
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:34 pm I guess those checkpoints are OK…🤷🏼‍♀️

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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:41 pm I was watching a video someone took in the crowd of people shouting “Intifada” asking what it meant… the guy in the video asked at least 20 people, none of them knew what it meant…
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:40 pm Yeah. And CEASEFIRE!!! But hey… INTIFADA!!! 🙄
It’s obvious these kids have no clue about their “cause”. They’re just the useful idiots that will pave the way for the Islamic Republic of America, Hod help us.
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:38 pm It seems like they’re taking their moves right out of Hitler’s playbook…

“We’re just trying to stop a war, so we became Nazi-like to do it…”
What does it mean to you?
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WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:47 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:41 pm I was watching a video someone took in the crowd of people shouting “Intifada” asking what it meant… the guy in the video asked at least 20 people, none of them knew what it meant…
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:40 pm Yeah. And CEASEFIRE!!! But hey… INTIFADA!!! 🙄
It’s obvious these kids have no clue about their “cause”. They’re just the useful idiots that will pave the way for the Islamic Republic of America, Hod help us.

What does it mean to you?
I will totally admit, I had to look it up too when this all started…granted, I’m also not someone to be shouting words in other languages that I don’t speak… but to each their own.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/intifada
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:56 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:47 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:41 pm I was watching a video someone took in the crowd of people shouting “Intifada” asking what it meant… the guy in the video asked at least 20 people, none of them knew what it meant…

What does it mean to you?
I will totally admit, I had to look it up too when this all started…granted, I’m also not someone to be shouting words in other languages that I don’t speak… but to each their own.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/intifada
That’s a good, albeit pretty clinical definition. It kinda means different things to different people and context is important, IMO.

https://forward.com/culture/573654/inti ... nguistics/

I think a lot of people in the US would have trouble giving a definition because the definition is personal.

Unfortunately, it has automatically taken on a negative connotation or even the connotation of violence. It’s kind of like the Arabic word “martyr” or even “jihad”. These negative connotations tend to be from non-Arabic speakers.
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That’s BS. Open a history book and look what happened during the 2 intifadas. THAT’S what Intifada is. So let’s no start with the all lovey dovey “what does it mean to YOU?”
Intifada is a violent uprising. It means bombings, stabbing a, mass shootings. Intifada has never been “peaceful resistance”.
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:41 pm I was watching a video someone took in the crowd of people shouting “Intifada” asking what it meant… the guy in the video asked at least 20 people, none of them knew what it meant…
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:40 pm Yeah. And CEASEFIRE!!! But hey… INTIFADA!!! 🙄
It’s obvious these kids have no clue about their “cause”. They’re just the useful idiots that will pave the way for the Islamic Republic of America, Hod help us.

What does it mean to you?
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WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:13 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:56 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:47 pm

What does it mean to you?
I will totally admit, I had to look it up too when this all started…granted, I’m also not someone to be shouting words in other languages that I don’t speak… but to each their own.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/intifada
That’s a good, albeit pretty clinical definition. It kinda means different things to different people and context is important, IMO.

https://forward.com/culture/573654/inti ... nguistics/

I think a lot of people in the US would have trouble giving a definition because the definition is personal.

Unfortunately, it has automatically taken on a negative connotation or even the connotation of violence. It’s kind of like the Arabic word “martyr” or even “jihad”. These negative connotations tend to be from non-Arabic speakers.
When has there ever been a martyr without violence?


I’m not sure it’s a “personal definition “ kind of thing… I think there’s just “the definition” and what historical realities have come from it…
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:54 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:13 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:56 pm

I will totally admit, I had to look it up too when this all started…granted, I’m also not someone to be shouting words in other languages that I don’t speak… but to each their own.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/intifada
That’s a good, albeit pretty clinical definition. It kinda means different things to different people and context is important, IMO.

https://forward.com/culture/573654/inti ... nguistics/

I think a lot of people in the US would have trouble giving a definition because the definition is personal.

Unfortunately, it has automatically taken on a negative connotation or even the connotation of violence. It’s kind of like the Arabic word “martyr” or even “jihad”. These negative connotations tend to be from non-Arabic speakers.
When has there ever been a martyr without violence?


I’m not sure it’s a “personal definition “ kind of thing… I think there’s just “the definition” and what historical realities have come from it…
It means someone who has died in a war, generally a holy war, but also means someone who has died via:
A person who is killed in an epidemic
A person who is drowned
A person who has bedsores, causing fever and cough resulting in his death
A person who dies of a stomach disease
A person who dies in fire
A person who dies under falling debris [in a disaster]
A woman who dies during childbirth.”
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WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:18 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:54 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:13 pm

That’s a good, albeit pretty clinical definition. It kinda means different things to different people and context is important, IMO.

https://forward.com/culture/573654/inti ... nguistics/

I think a lot of people in the US would have trouble giving a definition because the definition is personal.

Unfortunately, it has automatically taken on a negative connotation or even the connotation of violence. It’s kind of like the Arabic word “martyr” or even “jihad”. These negative connotations tend to be from non-Arabic speakers.
When has there ever been a martyr without violence?


I’m not sure it’s a “personal definition “ kind of thing… I think there’s just “the definition” and what historical realities have come from it…
It means someone who has died in a war, generally a holy war, but also means someone who has died via:
A person who is killed in an epidemic
A person who is drowned
A person who has bedsores, causing fever and cough resulting in his death
A person who dies of a stomach disease
A person who dies in fire
A person who dies under falling debris [in a disaster]
A woman who dies during childbirth.”
A martyr is someone who is killed for their religious beliefs…



It does not mean a woman who dies in childbirth…
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Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:49 pm That’s BS. Open a history book and look what happened during the 2 intifadas. THAT’S what Intifada is. So let’s no start with the all lovey dovey “what does it mean to YOU?”
Intifada is a violent uprising. It means bombings, stabbing a, mass shootings. Intifada has never been “peaceful resistance”.
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:41 pm I was watching a video someone took in the crowd of people shouting “Intifada” asking what it meant… the guy in the video asked at least 20 people, none of them knew what it meant…

What does it mean to you?
I included an article from “The Forward”.
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Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:20 pm
WellPreserved wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:18 pm
Slimshandy wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 7:54 pm

When has there ever been a martyr without violence?


I’m not sure it’s a “personal definition “ kind of thing… I think there’s just “the definition” and what historical realities have come from it…
It means someone who has died in a war, generally a holy war, but also means someone who has died via:
A person who is killed in an epidemic
A person who is drowned
A person who has bedsores, causing fever and cough resulting in his death
A person who dies of a stomach disease
A person who dies in fire
A person who dies under falling debris [in a disaster]
A woman who dies during childbirth.”
A martyr is someone who is killed for their religious beliefs…



It does not mean a woman who dies in childbirth…
Not in Islam.
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