Of course not all women feel this way…SallyMae wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:04 pmAgain, I am not agreeing with these generalizations. Some women feel really uncomfortable changing around other women. Some will not change in front of their own children. Do you think they are doing risk analysis and that's why? I don't think it's all up to "this person has a penis therefore - I fear them." And I don't think "women" in general have a problem with any of this. Some do, some don't, and at least some of the controversy is just exploitation to gin up anti-trans sentiment.Slimshandy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:56 pmThat’s what the discussion rests on…Traci_Momof2 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:49 pm
Thank you for trying to take this discussion back to the original story. I've read through the comments and there are a lot of wild leaps to imagined situations that have nothing to do with the original story. And IMO bringing in violent crimes or sexual crimes to this discussion does nothing to prove any kind of point. Sexual crimes have been happening since the beginning of time. Sexual crimes continued to happen when we did have locker rooms and bathrooms that were "vulva only" spaces. And sexual crimes will continue to happen regardless of what we do with those spaces. Sexual crimes won't stop until we address the core cause of sexual crimes. And that's not what this particular thread is about.
Women are showing themselves to be uncomfortable around a stranger’s naked male body regardless of how the person identifies. Which is what happens in locker rooms, which is why the female locker room space matters to the discussion.
Why is that?
The same reason women are uncomfortable being around strange men naked…
Why is that?
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Maybe you have a better answer as to why they’re feeling uncomfortable?
People should do what makes them comfortable, but I don't think there is any data to suggest that trans women should not be allowed to use the locker room they identify with while we change the world of locker room design to fit the new reality.
The women who are loudly vocal about being against sharing a private space meant for changing do though… and it’s not at all anti-trans. It’s them being vocal about what they’re uncomfortable with.
The narrative can’t just always be “ they don’t matter enough to discuss”
If 46% of women are uncomfortable, they’re not outliers..
https://today.yougov.com/society/articl ... der-survey