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WellPreserved wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:34 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:10 am
SallyMae wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:50 am

These Republicans say THEY want to end democracy, not Democrats. Believe them?
Republicans as a whole do not want to end democracy, regardless of what this idiot says in his speeches.
These Republicans do not represent republicans as a whole any more than the democrats who think republicans should be sent to reeducation camps represent democrats as a whole.
So we should just ignore what is being said at the largest gathering of Republicans because they don't represent Republicans?
What percentage of republicans do you think attended?
Which kind of republicans would go? The extreme ones that want to see these people in person, or the average republican voter?
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am
Francee89 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:23 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:10 am

Republicans as a whole do not want to end democracy, regardless of what this idiot says in his speeches.
These Republicans do not represent republicans as a whole any more than the democrats who think republicans should be sent to reeducation camps represent democrats as a whole.
Republicans are poised to renominate (by an overwhelming margin), a man who tried to steal the last election when he lost, and who feels to this day he did nothing wrong in doing so.
Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
He objectively did something wrong. The fact that people at best see shades of gray to what he did is a large part of the problem with the Republican party these days.
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am
Francee89 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:23 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:10 am

Republicans as a whole do not want to end democracy, regardless of what this idiot says in his speeches.
These Republicans do not represent republicans as a whole any more than the democrats who think republicans should be sent to reeducation camps represent democrats as a whole.
Republicans are poised to renominate (by an overwhelming margin), a man who tried to steal the last election when he lost, and who feels to this day he did nothing wrong in doing so.
Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
This isn’t a matter of belief. He lost, then he lost his legitimate legal challenges in court, so he conspired to create slates of fake electors/to have state legislatures reject state results, and led a public pressure campaign to have the Vice President reject the legitimate ones, all in hopes of becoming President despite losing.

If Republicans have decided that that objectively undemocratic behavior is okay with them, that seems to contradict your assertion “Republicans as a whole do not want to end democracy”. It definitely points to the fact that the most prominent member of the Republican Party has no qualms about running over democracy to get his way.
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am
WellPreserved wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:34 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:10 am

Republicans as a whole do not want to end democracy, regardless of what this idiot says in his speeches.
These Republicans do not represent republicans as a whole any more than the democrats who think republicans should be sent to reeducation camps represent democrats as a whole.
So we should just ignore what is being said at the largest gathering of Republicans because they don't represent Republicans?
What percentage of republicans do you think attended?
Which kind of republicans would go? The extreme ones that want to see these people in person, or the average republican voter?
Small percentage. But GOP has written out a plan for a Republican presidency, assembled speakers at CPAC who are reiterating that plan, have promoted that plan not just at federal level but state level so either Republican voters are ignorant or they like the plan. I don't think they're ignorant, do you?
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jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am
Francee89 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:23 am

Republicans are poised to renominate (by an overwhelming margin), a man who tried to steal the last election when he lost, and who feels to this day he did nothing wrong in doing so.
Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
He objectively did something wrong. The fact that people at best see shades of gray to what he did is a large part of the problem with the Republican party these days.
You think he did something wrong. Republicans don’t.


If you ask most republicans ( around here anyways, maybe it’s different in different places) but they’ll all say trump recorded a video telling everyone to stop and go home but Facebook and Twitter had to take it down because the current government told them to.


They don’t believe he tried to overthrow the government, at all.
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:07 am
jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am

Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
He objectively did something wrong. The fact that people at best see shades of gray to what he did is a large part of the problem with the Republican party these days.
You think he did something wrong. Republicans don’t.


If you ask most republicans ( around here anyways, maybe it’s different in different places) but they’ll all say trump recorded a video telling everyone to stop and go home but Facebook and Twitter had to take it down because the current government told them to.


They don’t believe he tried to overthrow the government, at all.
Do they believe that the entire fake elector scheme was conducted without Trump's knowledge?
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:07 am
jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am

Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
He objectively did something wrong. The fact that people at best see shades of gray to what he did is a large part of the problem with the Republican party these days.
You think he did something wrong. Republicans don’t.


If you ask most republicans ( around here anyways, maybe it’s different in different places) but they’ll all say trump recorded a video telling everyone to stop and go home but Facebook and Twitter had to take it down because the current government told them to.


They don’t believe he tried to overthrow the government, at all.
How does a video telling people to go home negate all of the other undemocratic behavior he engaged in?

I somehow don’t think that if Biden was to lose, say, Michigan and Nevada in 2024 and he was to try to get the state legislatures to refuse to certify the results, assemble slates of fake electors and then have Kamala Harris engage in the machinations that Trump wanted Pence to in order to get re-elected as President those people would find it to be nothing wrong.
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:07 am
jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am

Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
He objectively did something wrong. The fact that people at best see shades of gray to what he did is a large part of the problem with the Republican party these days.
You think he did something wrong. Republicans don’t.


If you ask most republicans ( around here anyways, maybe it’s different in different places) but they’ll all say trump recorded a video telling everyone to stop and go home but Facebook and Twitter had to take it down because the current government told them to.


They don’t believe he tried to overthrow the government, at all.
How are you okay with this? Do you agree?
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Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:07 am
jessilin0113 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:01 am
Slimshandy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:47 am

Democrats believe that, Republicans don’t.
Republicans don’t think he did anything wrong, Democrats think he did.

That’s why they’re willing to re-elect him.
He objectively did something wrong. The fact that people at best see shades of gray to what he did is a large part of the problem with the Republican party these days.
You think he did something wrong. Republicans don’t.


If you ask most republicans ( around here anyways, maybe it’s different in different places) but they’ll all say trump recorded a video telling everyone to stop and go home but Facebook and Twitter had to take it down because the current government told them to.


They don’t believe he tried to overthrow the government, at all.
Yes, that is why they are the problem.
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WellPreserved wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:49 am
Della wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:45 am
WellPreserved wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:35 am

And be prepared for what will happen if they lose.
If they try J6 again, I don't think they'll be unarmed.
I don't think they'll try J6 again. I don't think they'll have to.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ways-trump
We shall see.
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But I'm still the winner! They lied! They cheated! They stole the election!
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