SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:43 amMomto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:34 am You don’t get it… there aren’t any Palestinian occupied lands!!!! They don’t exist!!! You might as well accuse evil Jews of “occupying” Narnian territory.
Della wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:33 am "...3,412 housing units built for Jewish settlers on occupied Palestinian lands,"
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There is "the place they used to live where they can't live anymore." That's real.
New York law aims to stop funding of illegal Israeli settlements in West Bank
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Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
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What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:10 pm Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:43 amMomto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:34 am You don’t get it… there aren’t any Palestinian occupied lands!!!! They don’t exist!!! You might as well accuse evil Jews of “occupying” Narnian territory.
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It reminds me of what America did to "Indian Country" in the 1800s and early 1900s.SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:55 pm What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:10 pm Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
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It took hundreds of years for the Native Americans to be so divided, harassed and outmoded that they stopped resisting the occupation of their land. (Some still resist in many ways.) But it's not a happy ending, and it doesn't erase the horror and cruelty of what was done to make it happen. If we had a chance to do something different now, we should.WellPreserved wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:59 pmIt reminds me of what America did to "Indian Country" in the 1800s and early 1900s.SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:55 pm What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:10 pm Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
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It’s still their territory and if conditions are inferior, that’s because the Palestinian Authority is an authoritarian dictatorship. Why aren’t you speaking against that? Both Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas use and abuse the Palestinian citizens in their attempts to destroy the State of Israel. But yeah, Israel is the villain here…
And sorry, but Israel has no responsibility for these areas, as they are under their own rule. Israel’s responsibility is to its citizens, which is why security checkpoints and military presence needs to be in place. Israel is often the victim of terrorists from these areas, so are you seriously saying it shouldn’t protect its territories? Sorry, you don’t want checkpoints or being observed? Then don’t be a freaking terrorist! If they would just concentrate on building their country instead of being obsessed with erasing Israel from the map, they would be left alone and there would be peace.
And sorry, but Israel has no responsibility for these areas, as they are under their own rule. Israel’s responsibility is to its citizens, which is why security checkpoints and military presence needs to be in place. Israel is often the victim of terrorists from these areas, so are you seriously saying it shouldn’t protect its territories? Sorry, you don’t want checkpoints or being observed? Then don’t be a freaking terrorist! If they would just concentrate on building their country instead of being obsessed with erasing Israel from the map, they would be left alone and there would be peace.
SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:55 pm What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:10 pm Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
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Palestinian citizens?Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:12 pm It’s still their territory and if conditions are inferior, that’s because the Palestinian Authority is an authoritarian dictatorship. Why aren’t you speaking against that? Both Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas use and abuse the Palestinian citizens in their attempts to destroy the State of Israel. But yeah, Israel is the villain here…
And sorry, but Israel has no responsibility for these areas, as they are under their own rule. Israel’s responsibility is to its citizens, which is why security checkpoints and military presence needs to be in place. Israel is often the victim of terrorists from these areas, so are you seriously saying it shouldn’t protect its territories? Sorry, you don’t want checkpoints or being observed? Then don’t be a freaking terrorist! If they would just concentrate on building their country instead of being obsessed with erasing Israel from the map, they would be left alone and there would be peace.
SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:55 pm What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:10 pm Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
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I have quite the difficulty with this subject since I'm half Syrian and half Cherokee.WellPreserved wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:59 pmIt reminds me of what America did to "Indian Country" in the 1800s and early 1900s.SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:55 pm What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:10 pm Who says they can’t live there? There are many Palestinian settlements in the West Bank under the control of the Palestinian Authority. In fact there are 167 so called “islands” in the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority. And the Gaza Strip is also Palestinian land now, under the leadership of Hamas.
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It was Israeli intent all along.WellPreserved wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:17 am https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/08/is ... far-right/
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What else? They live in territory under the control of the Palestinian Authority.
WellPreserved wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:14 pmPalestinian citizens?Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:12 pm It’s still their territory and if conditions are inferior, that’s because the Palestinian Authority is an authoritarian dictatorship. Why aren’t you speaking against that? Both Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas use and abuse the Palestinian citizens in their attempts to destroy the State of Israel. But yeah, Israel is the villain here…
And sorry, but Israel has no responsibility for these areas, as they are under their own rule. Israel’s responsibility is to its citizens, which is why security checkpoints and military presence needs to be in place. Israel is often the victim of terrorists from these areas, so are you seriously saying it shouldn’t protect its territories? Sorry, you don’t want checkpoints or being observed? Then don’t be a freaking terrorist! If they would just concentrate on building their country instead of being obsessed with erasing Israel from the map, they would be left alone and there would be peace.
SallyMae wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:55 pm What you describe is their forcible confinement to reservations.
You may think there is no other choice. You may even be right. But read what you wrote, and think about life behind those walls, going through those daily military checkpoints, watching their homes and olive trees razed for settlements, and tell me why you think they are supposed to like it.
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