Fear of "terrorism" may have been a factor but it's only one. Gun sales very slightly increased after 9/11 but have mushroomed as the emphasis on terrorism has waned.
I think some of it was also vapid racism, but I think until recently the increase in gun sales has mostly been driven by fear of gun control. When Trump came in to office the fear of gun control waned, and gun sales dropped. When the pandemic/looming Democratic takeover arrived, sales skyrocketed.
The NRA made a conscious choice to stoke that fear.
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There are only about 4.3 million members of the NRA now. As gun ownership was skyrocketing, membership in the NRA was fast declining.SallyMae wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:50 am Fear of "terrorism" may have been a factor but it's only one. Gun sales very slightly increased after 9/11 but have mushroomed as the emphasis on terrorism has waned.
I think some of it was also vapid racism, but I think until recently the increase in gun sales has mostly been driven by fear of gun control. When Trump came in to office the fear of gun control waned, and gun sales dropped. When the pandemic/looming Democratic takeover arrived, sales skyrocketed.
The NRA made a conscious choice to stoke that fear.
The pandemic did have a huge impact though, 60 million guns bought because people thought all hell was going to break loose.
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It is more plausible that people were driven by vapid racism whether you will admit it or not. This Iran bullshit you brought up is just that... bullshit.Bobcobbagob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:36 amYes… the writer thinks that.Della wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:21 am"That explosion was the future Black president leading in the polls in 2007. And then Barack Obama won in 2008. So you have this sort of uncapping of hate and conspiracy, much of it racially driven,"Bobcobbagob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:00 am
People started buying a lot more guns because in Obama’s terms there was an extremely elevated environment of fear catapulted by terrorism.
What do you think?
Is it more plausible that vapid racism led to the massive armament of America, or do you think the frequency of terror attacks and threats increased the fear Americans felt leading them to increase the amount of perceived protection they had available to them ?
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Ok.Della wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:00 pmIt is more plausible that people were driven by vapid racism whether you will admit it or not. This Iran bullshit you brought up is just that... bullshit.Bobcobbagob wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:36 amYes… the writer thinks that.
What do you think?
Is it more plausible that vapid racism led to the massive armament of America, or do you think the frequency of terror attacks and threats increased the fear Americans felt leading them to increase the amount of perceived protection they had available to them ?
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"What no other society has had is 425 million guns and this culture, on the right, that tells young men that to be real young men, they must purchase an AR-15 and go out and solve their problems. The industry 15 years ago would not even allow the AR-15 to be used or displayed at its own trade shows. I mean, they were locked up in a corner. You had to have military or police credentials to even go in there. Now, they’re spread around like crazy, and the marketing campaigns are so aimed at young men that in some ways, it’s not shocking that Uvalde or Buffalo or [the July 4 shooting at a parade in the Chicago suburb of] Highland Park, all three heinous crimes, all three committed with AR-15s, all by very young men. It’s not shocking to me that those happen; it’s shocking to me that they don’t happen every day."
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Racism from a black President which the NRA stoked. Added is the media with “Obama is not a U.S. citizen.” Repubs stoked the “Obama is a terrorist and/or funding terrorists” which also divided the country more.
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Looking back on it, electing the first Black president made ALL of these extremist lose their damn minds and sparked issues with white supremacy/bigotry on both sides of the aisle.
The far right was pissed that Obama was Black and the far left ramped up exploiting minorities for a sense of superiority. It’s been divide, conquer, shame to force political views down everyone’s throats and controlling how voters think for control.
It’s not just one party or political party’s fault because both sides are just feeding off each others.
You can’t build a country off that mentality and expect a peaceful nation. I don’t see this getting better as long as holding both sides responsible is considered a bad thing.
The far right was pissed that Obama was Black and the far left ramped up exploiting minorities for a sense of superiority. It’s been divide, conquer, shame to force political views down everyone’s throats and controlling how voters think for control.
It’s not just one party or political party’s fault because both sides are just feeding off each others.
You can’t build a country off that mentality and expect a peaceful nation. I don’t see this getting better as long as holding both sides responsible is considered a bad thing.