Creeepy Stephen Miller wants to change America for the worse

[Lemons]

Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.

Melania Trump’s parents became US citizens relatively recently. What did two elderly, middle class people of retirement age have to contribute to make the United States better? If it’s okay for them to move to the United States and become citizens despite having no discernible employment plans, why does Trump have a different standard for everyone else?

A lot of the high tech people recruited from India and China bring three generations with them currently.

[Deleted User 1074]

First tons of people in democratic countries who are highly educated are not trying to get here.

Second- The vast majority of people from Latino countries are from poor violent countries with crooked politicians, violent gangs, violent police, poverty and not much to offer past high school. They want to come here to get the education and the jobs.

Third - Refugees are people trying to leave a country in war. This would by Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria to name a few. They too want to come to a peaceful country to get an education, safety and a job.

Trump is trying to eliminate these people - People mainly from Latin America, Africa, Middle East. Not so hard to understand.

So why is it ok for every other nation to have standards on who can come and live there but not for us? Why do we have to be the ones that accept all the uneducated immigrants and refugees but every other country can have income guidelines, education, age, and whatever else that Water mentioned in her copy and pastes of what other countries require?

I'm all for immigration. I'm an immigrant myself. First generation with highly educated parents that came here to give us a better life. I'm a naturlized citizen and i am middle eastern.
Why do we have to be the savior of everybody else when we can't even save the people in our own country?

Let someone else pick up the slack. Let Australia stop their "must speak English" rule and allow hispanics in. Let Germany lax their immigration policies and let people have a good life there.

Its not all about the US.

Germany has taken in almost four times the number of refugees as the United States despite having a population of about 1/4 the US. France has taken in more despite having 1/5 the population. Australia takes a significant number for a country with a small population. No one is arguing the United States should take all the world’s refugees, and it definitely isn’t even close to doing that right now.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/sm ... _desc=true

and yet, their numbers aren't even close to the number of illegals we currently host and the 100k who continually pour over the border each month.

now, tell me, how is that mass immigration working out for them?

[Deleted User 1074]

First tons of people in democratic countries who are highly educated are not trying to get here.

Second- The vast majority of people from Latino countries are from poor violent countries with crooked politicians, violent gangs, violent police, poverty and not much to offer past high school. They want to come here to get the education and the jobs.

Third - Refugees are people trying to leave a country in war. This would by Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria to name a few. They too want to come to a peaceful country to get an education, safety and a job.

Trump is trying to eliminate these people - People mainly from Latin America, Africa, Middle East. Not so hard to understand.

So why is it ok for every other nation to have standards on who can come and live there but not for us? Why do we have to be the ones that accept all the uneducated immigrants and refugees but every other country can have income guidelines, education, age, and whatever else that Water mentioned in her copy and pastes of what other countries require?

I'm all for immigration. I'm an immigrant myself. First generation with highly educated parents that came here to give us a better life. I'm a naturlized citizen and i am middle eastern.
Why do we have to be the savior of everybody else when we can't even save the people in our own country?

Let someone else pick up the slack. Let Australia stop their "must speak English" rule and allow hispanics in. Let Germany lax their immigration policies and let people have a good life there.

Its not all about the US.

Germany has taken in almost four times the number of refugees as the United States despite having a population of about 1/4 the US. France has taken in more despite having 1/5 the population. Australia takes a significant number for a country with a small population. No one is arguing the United States should take all the world’s refugees, and it definitely isn’t even close to doing that right now.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/sm ... _desc=true

lemme tell you how its worked out dear francee, even ultra "progressive" western europe sees the writing on the wall, they can't sustain everyone and mass immigration brings many problems. as biased as this politico writer is, there is one message that cant be denied. it is not just the "far right" saying NO TO MIGRANTS, its everyone.

for you to read dear LEMONS,

EU to migrants: Go home and stay home

Fortress Europe hardens its heart.

Three years ago, Merkel opened Germany’s borders to a wave of refugees and migrants, mostly from Syria’s civil war, saying “We can manage this.” Now, Europe has decided it cannot manage even a much smaller flow of migrants — arrivals are 95 percent down from the October 2015 peak, according to official EU figures — and is prepared to go to great lengths to stop it.

It’s hard to dispute Philippe Lamberts, the Belgian floor leader of the Greens group in the European Parliament, who said EU leaders had effectively buried the right to asylum in Europe.

“From now on, it will be virtually impossible to submit an asylum request on European soil,” Lamberts said of the summit outcome. “Far from blocking the road to the extreme right, as some still try to pretend, the heads of state and government have adopted its program.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe- ... -refugees/

[californiagirl83]

did his ancestor get welfare? do you think immigrants should be supported financially by taxpayers?

Obviously they didn't have welfare back then. If they had government programs back then, he would have qualified. These welfare programs your are so concerned about are a drop in the bucket regarding our tax dollars. 2-5% of GDP depending on the economy. It's like bitching about the soap costs in your monthly house budget when you have a huge mortgage, car payments, tuition. Small.

They're trying to eliminate immigrants from Mexico, Central America, South America and Africa and they aren't being subtle about it. Trump can't win on his successes because he has so little. So he's trying to keep his base by keeping "them" out.

my point is that his family were self sufficient. the majority of ALL immigrants, legal and illegal are on welfare. is this not a problem In your opinion? as we slowly replace our population with immigrants, who will pay the taxes for these social programs you love so much, if most immigrants currently are a net negative? if you want to invite the entire world in, you better make sure they can support the country, not the other way around.

Illegal immigrants aren't eligible for welfare. Only those with legal status (ie a green card or have sought and have been granted asylum) can collect.

[Lemons]

So why is it ok for every other nation to have standards on who can come and live there but not for us? Why do we have to be the ones that accept all the uneducated immigrants and refugees but every other country can have income guidelines, education, age, and whatever else that Water mentioned in her copy and pastes of what other countries require?

I'm all for immigration. I'm an immigrant myself. First generation with highly educated parents that came here to give us a better life. I'm a naturlized citizen and i am middle eastern.
Why do we have to be the savior of everybody else when we can't even save the people in our own country?

Let someone else pick up the slack. Let Australia stop their "must speak English" rule and allow hispanics in. Let Germany lax their immigration policies and let people have a good life there.

Its not all about the US.

Germany has taken in almost four times the number of refugees as the United States despite having a population of about 1/4 the US. France has taken in more despite having 1/5 the population. Australia takes a significant number for a country with a small population. No one is arguing the United States should take all the world’s refugees, and it definitely isn’t even close to doing that right now.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/sm ... _desc=true

lemme tell you how its worked out dear francee, even ultra "progressive" western europe sees the writing on the wall, they can't sustain everyone and mass immigration brings many problems. as biased as this politico writer is, there is one message that cant be denied. it is not just the "far right" saying NO TO MIGRANTS, its everyone.

for you to read dear LEMONS,

EU to migrants: Go home and stay home

Fortress Europe hardens its heart.

Three years ago, Merkel opened Germany’s borders to a wave of refugees and migrants, mostly from Syria’s civil war, saying “We can manage this.” Now, Europe has decided it cannot manage even a much smaller flow of migrants — arrivals are 95 percent down from the October 2015 peak, according to official EU figures — and is prepared to go to great lengths to stop it.

It’s hard to dispute Philippe Lamberts, the Belgian floor leader of the Greens group in the European Parliament, who said EU leaders had effectively buried the right to asylum in Europe.

“From now on, it will be virtually impossible to submit an asylum request on European soil,” Lamberts said of the summit outcome. “Far from blocking the road to the extreme right, as some still try to pretend, the heads of state and government have adopted its program.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe- ... -refugees/

They probably are trying to do too much but it’s better to at least try. And a lot of Germans aren’t far enough removed from their heinous murdering relatives so there’s that. Far right groups are growing in Germany.

[Deleted User 1074]

Obviously they didn't have welfare back then. If they had government programs back then, he would have qualified. These welfare programs your are so concerned about are a drop in the bucket regarding our tax dollars. 2-5% of GDP depending on the economy. It's like bitching about the soap costs in your monthly house budget when you have a huge mortgage, car payments, tuition. Small.

They're trying to eliminate immigrants from Mexico, Central America, South America and Africa and they aren't being subtle about it. Trump can't win on his successes because he has so little. So he's trying to keep his base by keeping "them" out.

my point is that his family were self sufficient. the majority of ALL immigrants, legal and illegal are on welfare. is this not a problem In your opinion? as we slowly replace our population with immigrants, who will pay the taxes for these social programs you love so much, if most immigrants currently are a net negative? if you want to invite the entire world in, you better make sure they can support the country, not the other way around.

Illegal immigrants aren't eligible for welfare. Only those with legal status (ie a green card or have sought and have been granted asylum) can collect.

lol, BS I have talked about this many times.

i will begin to dig up links showing how this is just a myth.

"The purported intent of federal policy is to prevent federal tax dollars from being used to fund health care for unauthorized immigrants except in extreme circumstances. Notwithstanding express prohibitions contained in the statutes related to Medicaid and Obamacare, there also are companion federal programs that permit federal funding to be used for health care of unauthorized immigrants indirectly."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothec ... 6b1c1c12c4

snap (foodstamps) is only ONE of many "benefits", but if you read the fine print, illegals CAN get foodstamps. if under 18, "if granted asylum or have been paroled, ie- catch and release", if illegal woman claims she or her children are domestic violence victims, if a woman calims to have been trafficked and of course any babies they drop on US soil automatically makes their "household" eligible for snap.

one more major loophole:

Verification of immigration status
The CalFresh office is required to verify the immigration status of individuals who are applying for CalFresh benefits, but may not require applicants to provide information about the citizenship or immigration status of any non-applicant. The CalFresh office may not deny benefits to an applicant because a non-applicant family or household member has not disclosed her citizenship or immigrant status. [FNS Guidance, page 22.]

If an applicant cannot provide acceptable verification of U.S. citizenship and the household can provide a reasonable explanation for the lack of verification, the CalFresh office must accept a signed statement, under penalty of perjury, from a third party. [FNS Guidance, page 23.]

So all they need is ONE qualified family member for everyone in the household to get snap also and the one"qualified" immigrant applicant applying for the entire household doesnt have to show proof of legal status?? this is too much!
http://calfresh.guide/immigrant-eligibi ... -benefits/

[Deleted User 1074]

Germany has taken in almost four times the number of refugees as the United States despite having a population of about 1/4 the US. France has taken in more despite having 1/5 the population. Australia takes a significant number for a country with a small population. No one is arguing the United States should take all the world’s refugees, and it definitely isn’t even close to doing that right now.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/sm ... _desc=true

lemme tell you how its worked out dear francee, even ultra "progressive" western europe sees the writing on the wall, they can't sustain everyone and mass immigration brings many problems. as biased as this politico writer is, there is one message that cant be denied. it is not just the "far right" saying NO TO MIGRANTS, its everyone.

for you to read dear LEMONS,

EU to migrants: Go home and stay home

Fortress Europe hardens its heart.

Three years ago, Merkel opened Germany’s borders to a wave of refugees and migrants, mostly from Syria’s civil war, saying “We can manage this.” Now, Europe has decided it cannot manage even a much smaller flow of migrants — arrivals are 95 percent down from the October 2015 peak, according to official EU figures — and is prepared to go to great lengths to stop it.

It’s hard to dispute Philippe Lamberts, the Belgian floor leader of the Greens group in the European Parliament, who said EU leaders had effectively buried the right to asylum in Europe.

“From now on, it will be virtually impossible to submit an asylum request on European soil,” Lamberts said of the summit outcome. “Far from blocking the road to the extreme right, as some still try to pretend, the heads of state and government have adopted its program.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe- ... -refugees/

They probably are trying to do too much but it’s better to at least try. And a lot of Germans aren’t far enough removed from their heinous murdering relatives so there’s that. Far right groups are growing in Germany.

lol, as soon as thereal world consequences are felt there, you blame germans for their nazi ancestors? lol. wow, the left has been praising germany under merkle for years, she started this! but now, germans are just "far right" nazis. please explain why its the EU saying this? why france?

[Deleted User 1074]

CASH WELFARE-

TANF
As of July 2009, nearly half of the states (22 states) provide state-only funded cash assistance to some or all qualified immigrants during the five-year ban (figure 2). All nonexempt qualified immigrants were covered in 16 states, while in the remaining six states only certain immigrants, (e.g., battered spouses and children) were covered (Rowe, Murphy, and Mon 2010).[11]

In addition, five states (California, Hawaii, Minnesota, New York, and Washington) provide state-only funded assistance for some nonqualified immigrants. For example, California and Hawaii provide assistance to most nonqualified lawfully present immigrants and Minnesota, to persons in temporary protected status (Rowe et al. 2010).



https://aspe.hhs.gov/basic-report/overv ... d-and-chip

[Deleted User 1344]

Most countries want to know what you can contribute to make their new home better. Heaven forbid, america should have that same standard.

Melania Trump’s parents became US citizens relatively recently. What did two elderly, middle class people of retirement age have to contribute to make the United States better? If it’s okay for them to move to the United States and become citizens despite having no discernible employment plans, why does Trump have a different standard for everyone else?

A lot of the high tech people recruited from India and China bring three generations with them currently.

Those high tech people definitely contribute to our country! They’re way ahead of most people!

[Francee89]

So why is it ok for every other nation to have standards on who can come and live there but not for us? Why do we have to be the ones that accept all the uneducated immigrants and refugees but every other country can have income guidelines, education, age, and whatever else that Water mentioned in her copy and pastes of what other countries require?

I'm all for immigration. I'm an immigrant myself. First generation with highly educated parents that came here to give us a better life. I'm a naturlized citizen and i am middle eastern.
Why do we have to be the savior of everybody else when we can't even save the people in our own country?

Let someone else pick up the slack. Let Australia stop their "must speak English" rule and allow hispanics in. Let Germany lax their immigration policies and let people have a good life there.

Its not all about the US.

Germany has taken in almost four times the number of refugees as the United States despite having a population of about 1/4 the US. France has taken in more despite having 1/5 the population. Australia takes a significant number for a country with a small population. No one is arguing the United States should take all the world’s refugees, and it definitely isn’t even close to doing that right now.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/sm ... _desc=true

and yet, their numbers aren't even close to the number of illegals we currently host and the 100k who continually pour over the border each month.

now, tell me, how is that mass immigration working out for them?

What does any of that have to do with my post, which points out the fact that Germany, France and Australia are more generous than the United States in accepting refugees, and that literally no one suggests or expects the United States to take all refugees?