Put aside your PC nonsense and be honest, do you want a heart surgeon who scored LOWER than their peers working on your heart or would you prefer the one with a higher score?msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:31 pmThis could potentially help graduates in our county where we have a home - rural Appalachia, low performing schools, large degree of drug use, single family homes where a parent is incarcerated, high unemployment, 96% white. The county still pumps out some really amazing graduates. IMO it is nice to see a matrix for tracking their success despite adversity.Olioxenfree wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:40 pmCould you be more racist? There are more poor white people in this country than minority people.
New SAT Exams to Include ‘Adversity Score’ for ‘Social Background’ of Every Student
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I wouldn't care what their adversity score was.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:37 pmPut aside your PC nonsense and be honest, do you want a heart surgeon who scored LOWER than their peers working on your heart or would you prefer the one with a higher score?msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:31 pmThis could potentially help graduates in our county where we have a home - rural Appalachia, low performing schools, large degree of drug use, single family homes where a parent is incarcerated, high unemployment, 96% white. The county still pumps out some really amazing graduates. IMO it is nice to see a matrix for tracking their success despite adversity.Olioxenfree wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:40 pm
Could you be more racist? There are more poor white people in this country than minority people.
uh huh- yeah thats my point. but according to the list of "adversity factors", its a disadvantage.ReadingRainbow wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:33 pmBeing bi-lingual or tri-lingual has always been an advantage. Better yet, when you’re fluent in two languages and conversationally speak two more, you’re SUPER advantaged, especially when you’re going for a Masters in Anthro.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:22 pmThanks for clarifying.
yep totally F***ing unfair. So lemme get this straight, in the workforce being bi-lingual is an ADVANTAGE but as a college applicant it is an "adversity" factor? give me a break. this isn't about "adversity", its about superficial "diversity".
I am talking about their REAL ACTUAL non adjusted for "adversity" SAT scores.msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:39 pmI wouldn't care what their adversity score was.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:37 pmPut aside your PC nonsense and be honest, do you want a heart surgeon who scored LOWER than their peers working on your heart or would you prefer the one with a higher score?msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:31 pm
This could potentially help graduates in our county where we have a home - rural Appalachia, low performing schools, large degree of drug use, single family homes where a parent is incarcerated, high unemployment, 96% white. The county still pumps out some really amazing graduates. IMO it is nice to see a matrix for tracking their success despite adversity.
if you found out they werent really qualified for med school but passed because they were raised in a tough neighborhood, youd be fine with that?
IMO, an ESL students scoring the same as an English as a first language student should have an advantage.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:39 pmuh huh- yeah thats my point. but according to the list of "adversity factors", its a disadvantage.ReadingRainbow wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:33 pmBeing bi-lingual or tri-lingual has always been an advantage. Better yet, when you’re fluent in two languages and conversationally speak two more, you’re SUPER advantaged, especially when you’re going for a Masters in Anthro.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:22 pm
Thanks for clarifying.
yep totally F***ing unfair. So lemme get this straight, in the workforce being bi-lingual is an ADVANTAGE but as a college applicant it is an "adversity" factor? give me a break. this isn't about "adversity", its about superficial "diversity".
Adversity Scores are not added to SAT scores. I always look at my doctor's med school diploma. I've never been concerned about his/her SAT scores. Also, MCATs qualify you for med school, not SATs.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:40 pmI am talking about their REAL ACTUAL non adjusted for "adversity" SAT scores.msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:39 pmI wouldn't care what their adversity score was.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:37 pm
Put aside your PC nonsense and be honest, do you want a heart surgeon who scored LOWER than their peers working on your heart or would you prefer the one with a higher score?
if you found out they werent really qualified for med school but passed because they were raised in a tough neighborhood, youd be fine with that?
and that is WRONG and illegal, hence the public outrage and the parents being CHARGED FOR A CRIME. I am not advocating for that. obviously those people need to do the time for their crime and new policies need to be put in place to avoid fraud like that in the future. however, This is not any different! The academic standards should be the same for everyone.Lemons wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:35 pmOr rejected because some rich person paid $500,000 to bribe the tennis coach to claim their kid is a prodigy. Or rejected because Kushner gave the school $2 million dollars to buy a building. It will never just be about high scores.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:03 pmuh huh, sure until YOU'RE the one being rejected with a higher score and more accomplishments and someone else less qualified is taking your place.ReadingRainbow wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 5:32 pm Eh... I don’t really care.
Being from an affluent family meant I could study as much as I wanted, utilize every technological advancement that helped me learn, and have as much private tutoring as I wanted...
So I got pretty high scores when it came to testing.
I read their SAT scores are adjusted based on their "Adversity score", so they get an actual lower score and I know SAT scores dont get you into med school, but the same principle applies. and where do med students start off?msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:43 pmAdversity Scores are not added to SAT scores. I always look at my doctor's med school diploma. I've never been concerned about his/her SAT scores. Also, MCATs qualify you for med school, not SATs.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:40 pmI am talking about their REAL ACTUAL non adjusted for "adversity" SAT scores.
if you found out they werent really qualified for med school but passed because they were raised in a tough neighborhood, youd be fine with that?
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It's not race it's economics. There are plenty of white kids who are dirt poor with opioid addicted parents who are neglected, have no outside activities and no money for SAT classes. They need help leveling the playing field too.
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A heart surgeon would have had to take the MCAT and have great undergrad scores to get into med school, followed by great medical school grades and interviews to get a surgery or cardiology residency. I can imagine being concerned with my heart surgeon’s success rate, bedside manner, specialities and general professional reputation. Being honest, his high school SAT scores and undergraduate admissions methodologies would be the least of my worries.water<wine wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:37 pmPut aside your PC nonsense and be honest, do you want a heart surgeon who scored LOWER than their peers working on your heart or would you prefer the one with a higher score?msb64 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:31 pmThis could potentially help graduates in our county where we have a home - rural Appalachia, low performing schools, large degree of drug use, single family homes where a parent is incarcerated, high unemployment, 96% white. The county still pumps out some really amazing graduates. IMO it is nice to see a matrix for tracking their success despite adversity.Olioxenfree wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:40 pm
Could you be more racist? There are more poor white people in this country than minority people.