Texas girl, 17, stabs newborn to death minutes after giving birth, police say

[Deleted User 670]

Omg
That’s so sick.
Why is it that so many teens get pregnant and then kill their babies when there is always the opportunity to give the newborn to a hospital or a police station , two of the places that will help ? Are they mentally ill? What about their parents? No communication?
This just kills me....
So many people want to have children but can’t. And then this kind of thing happens.

Because they're in states where it is difficult to get an abortion and where parental notification and consent laws exist. They can't get an abortion easily and they're afraid to tell their parents.

[Pjmm]

Yes, but in NY you can kill newborns.

I believe safe haven laws are all over the country, not just NY.

If only she lived in NY.

Yeah okay this isn't about abortion. If she had had one at six weeks perhaps this baby wouldn't have suffered or far less anyhow. But good job pushing your agenda into a needless tragedy.

[Pjmm]

THIS!!! is why parental notification and consent laws on abortions for minors needs to be overturned and why easy access to safe, affordable abortions should be available to all women who need one. If this teen had access to an abortion without parental notification and consent, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Even with parental consent for abortion there are safe haven laws. She could probably leave the baby on the steps of a firehouse and run away if she wishes to talk to no one. Florida gives someone 3 days after birth no questions asked.

[Deleted User 670]

THIS!!! is why parental notification and consent laws on abortions for minors needs to be overturned and why easy access to safe, affordable abortions should be available to all women who need one. If this teen had access to an abortion without parental notification and consent, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Even with parental consent for abortion, there are safe haven laws. She could probably leave the baby on the steps of a firehouse and run away if she wishes to talk to no one. Florida gives someone 3 days after birth no questions asked.

Yes, that is true. But I'm guessing this pregnancy was unwanted from the start. She should have had access to an abortion.

[Traci_Momof2]

Omg
That’s so sick.
Why is it that so many teens get pregnant and then kill their babies when there is always the opportunity to give the newborn to a hospital or a police station , two of the places that will help ? Are they mentally ill? What about their parents? No communication?
This just kills me....
So many people want to have children but can’t. And then this kind of thing happens.

What does that have to do with this story at all? This is about a girl who was scared out of her mind and did something horrible. It has nothing to do with people who can't have children.
If this girl had been able to get an abortion early in her pregnancy without fear of religious retribution, then this incident would never have happened and this newborn would never have had to suffer like this.

[Pjmm]

THIS!!! is why parental notification and consent laws on abortions for minors needs to be overturned and why easy access to safe, affordable abortions should be available to all women who need one. If this teen had access to an abortion without parental notification and consent, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Even with parental consent for abortion, there are safe haven laws. She could probably leave the baby on the steps of a firehouse and run away if she wishes to talk to no one. Florida gives someone 3 days after birth no questions asked.

Yes, that is true. But I'm guessing this pregnancy was unwanted from the start. She should have had access to an abortion.

Idk what she had access to. I only know Florida requires parental notification. Idk if the parents are able to prevent the abortion but they have to be notified. And the girl can go before a judge if she feels the notification will harm her. Even if the girl has access to an abortion the parent would know if it's through health insurance. I certainly would know because I have a deductible. What I wonder is where are the parents? I know my boys used to wear hoodies in warm weather and I asked them why. I looked at them. I wanted to be sure they weren't cutting or hiding something. If I had a dd and she was always in big shirts I'd ask questions...

[Poietes]

Omg
That’s so sick.
Why is it that so many teens get pregnant and then kill their babies when there is always the opportunity to give the newborn to a hospital or a police station , two of the places that will help ? Are they mentally ill? What about their parents? No communication?
This just kills me....
So many people want to have children but can’t. And then this kind of thing happens.

Because they're in states where it is difficult to get an abortion and where parental notification and consent laws exist. They can't get an abortion easily and they're afraid to tell their parents.

They can also go drop their baby off at a police station, hospital or fire station. There is no reason to kill the baby. None at all. Don't blame abortion laws for a sick person killing a living breathing child. There are options.

[SouthernIslander]

That is so sad. That poor baby and 13 year old who found the baby’s body is scarred.


Horrible all around.

[Libbylu2]

Omg
That’s so sick.
Why is it that so many teens get pregnant and then kill their babies when there is always the opportunity to give the newborn to a hospital or a police station , two of the places that will help ? Are they mentally ill? What about their parents? No communication?
This just kills me....
So many people want to have children but can’t. And then this kind of thing happens.

Because they're in states where it is difficult to get an abortion and where parental notification and consent laws exist. They can't get an abortion easily and they're afraid to tell their parents.

But my point is why don’t these teens realize that there are places to take their newborns instead of killing them? The information is publicized all the time -
Don’t they know how to read?
How could parents not know if their daughter is pregnant? I would say they’re negligent and uncaring.
This is insane!
Yes it’s difficult to find a clinic that will do an abortion but that’s because of the narrow minded, selfish , controlling and mean people who decide to control others lives ( like the one in this thread) but if she couldn’t get an abortion she could have given her baby away and someone could adopt it ! Also- would this girl even try to get an abortion? I don’t think she’s capable of that much thought.
This makes me so angry!

[Deleted User 670]

Even with parental consent for abortion, there are safe haven laws. She could probably leave the baby on the steps of a firehouse and run away if she wishes to talk to no one. Florida gives someone 3 days after birth no questions asked.

Yes, that is true. But I'm guessing this pregnancy was unwanted from the start. She should have had access to an abortion.

Idk what she had access to. I only know Florida requires parental notification. Idk if the parents are able to prevent the abortion but they have to be notified. And the girl can go before a judge if she feels the notification will harm her. Even if the girl has access to an abortion the parent would know if it's through health insurance. I certainly would know because I have a deductible. What I wonder is where are the parents? I know my boys used to wear hoodies in warm weather and I asked them why. I looked at them. I wanted to be sure they weren't cutting or hiding something. If I had a dd and she was always in big shirts I'd ask questions...

There are only 20 abortion clinics in the entire state of Texas. There were more than 40 in the state before that law in 2013 went into effect requiring all clinics to the same standard as outpatient surgery centers and for the providers to have privileges at nearby hospitals. She lives in El Paso and it looks like there are just 2 clinics in that city. Medical and surgical abortions in 1st trimester up to 10 weeks is $490/$530. That's a lot of money for a teen to come up with. I doubt if her insurance would cover elective abortions, most insurance companies do not and have not for a while now thanks to the GOP and the pro-fetus assholes in Congress.