Teen Allegedly Threw Boy, 8, Off 31-Foot-High Waterslide Platform/Had been violent before

[TheQueenOfEverything]

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

And frankly it wouldn’t hurt my feelings any if he was the victim of a similarly “minor” assault in prison. I literally saw red when I first read the details of this. That poor little boy. I also feel like the parents should be charged with negligence for letting this monster out in public.

Agreed.

He clearly is a danger to the public. He needs to be locked up for everyone's safety.

The charge of 3rd degree assault is laughable.

the Parents hired an aide to take him out into public and monitor and control him. The aide did not do their job.

This is a slippery slope here people. Are you suggesting we go back to the days of locking all people less than 100% perfect and typical away in institutions or our attics like they did in the 20s?

If he was dangerous the water park may not have been the best place for him-but we can't also go back to the way things were where we lock people away either. Or do you want to do what Hitler did and have them sent to the gas chambers for being special needs?

[RedBottoms]

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

And frankly it wouldn’t hurt my feelings any if he was the victim of a similarly “minor” assault in prison. I literally saw red when I first read the details of this. That poor little boy. I also feel like the parents should be charged with negligence for letting this monster out in public.

the Parents hired an aide to take him out into public and monitor and control him. The aide did not do their job.

This is a slippery slope here people. Are you suggesting we go back to the days of locking all people less than 100% perfect and typical away in institutions or our attics like they did in the 20s?

If he was dangerous the water park may not have been the best place for him-but we can't also go back to the way things were where we lock people away either. Or do you want to do what Hitler did and have them sent to the gas chambers for being special needs?

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.

[Victoriousmom]

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

the Parents hired an aide to take him out into public and monitor and control him. The aide did not do their job.

This is a slippery slope here people. Are you suggesting we go back to the days of locking all people less than 100% perfect and typical away in institutions or our attics like they did in the 20s?

If he was dangerous the water park may not have been the best place for him-but we can't also go back to the way things were where we lock people away either. Or do you want to do what Hitler did and have them sent to the gas chambers for being special needs?

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.

Snowflake syndrome is alive and well.

[TheQueenOfEverything]

This kid didn’t accidentally hurt someone. He picked a young child up, and intentionally threw him thirty feet to the ground, knowing it would hurt him. He could have KILLED him. He should not be inflicted on the public with or without an aide. Hell, if the aide had been there he might have thrown her. He is too dangerous.

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

the Parents hired an aide to take him out into public and monitor and control him. The aide did not do their job.

This is a slippery slope here people. Are you suggesting we go back to the days of locking all people less than 100% perfect and typical away in institutions or our attics like they did in the 20s?

If he was dangerous the water park may not have been the best place for him-but we can't also go back to the way things were where we lock people away either. Or do you want to do what Hitler did and have them sent to the gas chambers for being special needs?

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.

[RedBottoms]

This kid didn’t accidentally hurt someone. He picked a young child up, and intentionally threw him thirty feet to the ground, knowing it would hurt him. He could have KILLED him. He should not be inflicted on the public with or without an aide. Hell, if the aide had been there he might have thrown her. He is too dangerous.

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.

We are not his psychiatrist or doctor so we don't know for sure what mental capacity he has to know or understand things like death or injury or gravity.

but I agree if they knew he was that volatile he should not have been there in the first place. I know my son can't handle long lines so we avoid crowded amusement parks. Or we get him a disability pass that helps him avoid lines.

Someone definitely failed somewhere. I am looking at the blame not just going on the special needs person though. The parents and the aide have some blame here too. Maybe more of the blame than even him.

And the thing is though if someone cannot be out in society-then its our job as a society to help the family manage that by our tax dollars paying for respite care or a group home etc. We can't expect parents to have to watch their special needs adult 24/7 but still somehow figure out how to work a job to pay bills.

The system is broken.

[Gorilla_Mama]

Where the hell was the aide? Why even bother hiring one if they’re not going to be close enough to even see him do it. I hope he gets the maximum sentence.

That poor kid is probably going to be traumatized for life, and he gets charged with 3rd degree assault. Really?!

[Guest]

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

the Parents hired an aide to take him out into public and monitor and control him. The aide did not do their job.

This is a slippery slope here people. Are you suggesting we go back to the days of locking all people less than 100% perfect and typical away in institutions or our attics like they did in the 20s?

If he was dangerous the water park may not have been the best place for him-but we can't also go back to the way things were where we lock people away either. Or do you want to do what Hitler did and have them sent to the gas chambers for being special needs?

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.

You have no clue what the aide was hired to do.

[RedBottoms]

First, I didn’t say lock HIm up for being special needs... he needs to be locked up because he THREW AN 8 YEAR OLD OFF A THREE STORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE HE FELT IMPATIENT. I would think a NT person who did the same thing should be locked up as well. His SN do not excuse his behavior, and if they do then yes, he should be locked up for the safety of the public.

Not every special needs person is violent or dangerous. And there is no way this boy went from zero to “throwing random children off 30 foot structures” out of nowhere. I’d bet my last dollar hat he has shown violent and impulsive behavior before. I don’t think hiring an aide wasn’t enough - though I wouldn’t argue with growing some charges at her too, even though I doubt the parents warned her about exactly how dangerous their kid is.

The aide absolutely in my opinion deserves charges. They paid and hired her to do a certain job and she did not do it. We don't know what the parents told the aide or how long the aide has worked with the boy etc. Its possible the aide was told to always stay next to him and avoid long lines etc and she ignored that. So then honestly the crime is more on the aide than the Special needs person.

There are a lot of factors to this story. If my son was at school and on a field trip and he was supposed to have an aide with him and they didn't and he did something that hurt someone else-I would wanting the aide in jail and the school system in trouble-not necessarily my son. Because they fucked up.

Now my son is not going to toss someone over a railing but he might accidentally hurt someone during a meltdown if he got upset and threw something etc. You just never know. Its why I monitor him closely. Its also why I don't take him into situations that are too much for him. Its why I tell his teachers what I expect of them when he is under their care.

But again-if they f**k up and don't do what they are supposed to do-that is on them-not me or my son. I tell them very plainly what he needs and its documented in his IEP.

You have no clue what the aide was hired to do.

Correct. The story needs a lot more details for any of us to have the 100% picture of the whole story

[Guest]

The young man who pushed an 8-year-old boy off the top of a water slide on Tuesday, sending him 32 feet to concrete below, bit a lifeguard at the same Apple Valley water park less than three weeks earlier but was not charged for that incident or told to stay away, according to police.

http://www.jamestownsun.com/news/crime- ... previously

He's been violent before.

[lunarprancer]

The young man who pushed an 8-year-old boy off the top of a water slide on Tuesday, sending him 32 feet to concrete below, bit a lifeguard at the same Apple Valley water park less than three weeks earlier but was not charged for that incident or told to stay away, according to police.

http://www.jamestownsun.com/news/crime- ... previously

He's been violent before.

Thank you. I added that article to the OP.