https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-817179
“With broken hearts, the Goldberg-Polin family is devastated to announce the death of their beloved son and brother, Hersh." The Goldberg-Polin family announced.”
Hersh’s parents delivered a heartbreaking speech at the DNC.
Such a devastating loss. May his memory be a blessing.
5 other hostages were also killed by Hamas and recovered in Rafah by the IIDF.
All eyes on Rafah now…
Israeli-American hostage Hersh Goldberg-Polin confirmed dead by family
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Sadly not surprising. My heart just breaks for the families. Holding onto hope while the feelings of hopelessness have been growing…it’s not just the hostages who’ve suffered and been suffering.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.
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This isn’t on Israel. It’s first and foremost on Hamas. The only mistake Israel has made is give in to pressure, especially from the U.S.
Because if anyone has contributed to this it’s the Biden administration. They threatened to withdraw support if Israel entered into Rafah- where these hostages were being held- and have been bullying Israel into pointless negotiations with terrorists instead of letting them do their thing. They even halted aid to bully Israel into not going into Rafah. If instead they gave the “unwavering support” they claimed to have, this probably wouldn’t have happened. Israel wasted precious time trying to appease Biden and Kamala.
Hope they learned their lesson.
Because if anyone has contributed to this it’s the Biden administration. They threatened to withdraw support if Israel entered into Rafah- where these hostages were being held- and have been bullying Israel into pointless negotiations with terrorists instead of letting them do their thing. They even halted aid to bully Israel into not going into Rafah. If instead they gave the “unwavering support” they claimed to have, this probably wouldn’t have happened. Israel wasted precious time trying to appease Biden and Kamala.
Hope they learned their lesson.
Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:18 am Sadly not surprising. My heart just breaks for the families. Holding onto hope while the feelings of hopelessness have been growing…it’s not just the hostages who’ve suffered and been suffering.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.
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Brilliant logic there…
Innocent people get kidnapped and brutally murdered, but let’s not blame the ones who kidnapped and brutally murdered them…
Innocent people get kidnapped and brutally murdered, but let’s not blame the ones who kidnapped and brutally murdered them…
Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:18 am Sadly not surprising. My heart just breaks for the families. Holding onto hope while the feelings of hopelessness have been growing…it’s not just the hostages who’ve suffered and been suffering.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.
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Powerful words from Rachel Goldberg Polin during her son Hersh’s funeral.
Now imagine having so much hate in your heart and mind that you can’t even feel for this mother because she’s an Israeli Jew. It’s so sad that for some people their hate and prejudice is bigger than their empathy.
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Now imagine having so much hate in your heart and mind that you can’t even feel for this mother because she’s an Israeli Jew. It’s so sad that for some people their hate and prejudice is bigger than their empathy.
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The only mistake Israel has made is giving into pressure? So it wasn’t a mistake to you when they killed aid workers? Or when IDF soldiers accidentally killed 3 hostages in a failed rescued attempt? That’s seriously next level on bias blindness.
The saying “You can’t control other peoples actions just your response.” is very true. The actions of one does not absolve the other of their reactions.
It has been an epic fail on Israel’s part. It would be for any country who followed the same strategies and tactics against the same entity under the same conditions. I cautioned you against these biases and placing Israel on a pedestal. Be realistic on how you see this playing out, not how you want it to play out, but how, given all factors including those you may look at and dismiss as insignificant.
This hasn’t been a fail on Hamas’ part. Entities like Hamas are not destroyed in physical battles. You take out one leader, two more ascend to take his place. Martyrdom is the supreme desirable means of ascension into the afterlife. So the death of leaders only turns them into martyrs to other Hamas. Death of some are an acceptable sacrifice, while the death of others are seen by them as little more than extermination, both of which only hold the value, it MUST be emphasized that value is not of the lives lost, but the effects those deaths have. They use the deaths of Palestinians as a means to play victim as well as “proof” of the false idea they are freedom fighters for the people they use the deaths of hostages to amplify suffering in such a cruel way that calling it sadistic isn’t a strong enough descriptor.
While this war wages on Iran and Hezbollah have made clear they are waiting in the wings at the ready. They keep reminding this. Once they come out of the wings, it’s highly likely to embolden others as well. Israel had been experiencing heightened division before October 7, that division has only widened and each day that hostages are not brought home, each body recovered is going to continue to increase this division, and it’s going to continue to increase as long as there are Israelis marginalized and attempts to strip their identities continue(the latter is not just an Israel problem but also seen among Jews globally). Globally Hamas has gained support at a level that, off the top of my head I can’t think of any terror organization actually achieving. Israel already experienced differing levels of global isolation, Hamas has increased this, and Israel has made their own contribution to increasing this. There is little to no good outcome from this war. It’s ignorant to think there has only been 2 option solutions.
The saying “You can’t control other peoples actions just your response.” is very true. The actions of one does not absolve the other of their reactions.
It has been an epic fail on Israel’s part. It would be for any country who followed the same strategies and tactics against the same entity under the same conditions. I cautioned you against these biases and placing Israel on a pedestal. Be realistic on how you see this playing out, not how you want it to play out, but how, given all factors including those you may look at and dismiss as insignificant.
This hasn’t been a fail on Hamas’ part. Entities like Hamas are not destroyed in physical battles. You take out one leader, two more ascend to take his place. Martyrdom is the supreme desirable means of ascension into the afterlife. So the death of leaders only turns them into martyrs to other Hamas. Death of some are an acceptable sacrifice, while the death of others are seen by them as little more than extermination, both of which only hold the value, it MUST be emphasized that value is not of the lives lost, but the effects those deaths have. They use the deaths of Palestinians as a means to play victim as well as “proof” of the false idea they are freedom fighters for the people they use the deaths of hostages to amplify suffering in such a cruel way that calling it sadistic isn’t a strong enough descriptor.
While this war wages on Iran and Hezbollah have made clear they are waiting in the wings at the ready. They keep reminding this. Once they come out of the wings, it’s highly likely to embolden others as well. Israel had been experiencing heightened division before October 7, that division has only widened and each day that hostages are not brought home, each body recovered is going to continue to increase this division, and it’s going to continue to increase as long as there are Israelis marginalized and attempts to strip their identities continue(the latter is not just an Israel problem but also seen among Jews globally). Globally Hamas has gained support at a level that, off the top of my head I can’t think of any terror organization actually achieving. Israel already experienced differing levels of global isolation, Hamas has increased this, and Israel has made their own contribution to increasing this. There is little to no good outcome from this war. It’s ignorant to think there has only been 2 option solutions.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:22 am This isn’t on Israel. It’s first and foremost on Hamas. The only mistake Israel has made is give in to pressure, especially from the U.S.
Because if anyone has contributed to this it’s the Biden administration. They threatened to withdraw support if Israel entered into Rafah- where these hostages were being held- and have been bullying Israel into pointless negotiations with terrorists instead of letting them do their thing. They even halted aid to bully Israel into not going into Rafah. If instead they gave the “unwavering support” they claimed to have, this probably wouldn’t have happened. Israel wasted precious time trying to appease Biden and Kamala.
Hope they learned their lesson.
Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:18 am Sadly not surprising. My heart just breaks for the families. Holding onto hope while the feelings of hopelessness have been growing…it’s not just the hostages who’ve suffered and been suffering.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.
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You do know blame and fail are not synonymous correct?
Slimshandy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:43 pm Brilliant logic there…
Innocent people get kidnapped and brutally murdered, but let’s not blame the ones who kidnapped and brutally murdered them…Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:18 am Sadly not surprising. My heart just breaks for the families. Holding onto hope while the feelings of hopelessness have been growing…it’s not just the hostages who’ve suffered and been suffering.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.
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You sound like a terrorist.
Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:46 pm The only mistake Israel has made is giving into pressure? So it wasn’t a mistake to you when they killed aid workers? Or when IDF soldiers accidentally killed 3 hostages in a failed rescued attempt? That’s seriously next level on bias blindness.
The saying “You can’t control other peoples actions just your response.” is very true. The actions of one does not absolve the other of their reactions.
It has been an epic fail on Israel’s part. It would be for any country who followed the same strategies and tactics against the same entity under the same conditions. I cautioned you against these biases and placing Israel on a pedestal. Be realistic on how you see this playing out, not how you want it to play out, but how, given all factors including those you may look at and dismiss as insignificant.
This hasn’t been a fail on Hamas’ part. Entities like Hamas are not destroyed in physical battles. You take out one leader, two more ascend to take his place. Martyrdom is the supreme desirable means of ascension into the afterlife. So the death of leaders only turns them into martyrs to other Hamas. Death of some are an acceptable sacrifice, while the death of others are seen by them as little more than extermination, both of which only hold the value, it MUST be emphasized that value is not of the lives lost, but the effects those deaths have. They use the deaths of Palestinians as a means to play victim as well as “proof” of the false idea they are freedom fighters for the people they use the deaths of hostages to amplify suffering in such a cruel way that calling it sadistic isn’t a strong enough descriptor.
While this war wages on Iran and Hezbollah have made clear they are waiting in the wings at the ready. They keep reminding this. Once they come out of the wings, it’s highly likely to embolden others as well. Israel had been experiencing heightened division before October 7, that division has only widened and each day that hostages are not brought home, each body recovered is going to continue to increase this division, and it’s going to continue to increase as long as there are Israelis marginalized and attempts to strip their identities continue(the latter is not just an Israel problem but also seen among Jews globally). Globally Hamas has gained support at a level that, off the top of my head I can’t think of any terror organization actually achieving. Israel already experienced differing levels of global isolation, Hamas has increased this, and Israel has made their own contribution to increasing this. There is little to no good outcome from this war. It’s ignorant to think there has only been 2 option solutions.
Momto2boys973 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:22 am This isn’t on Israel. It’s first and foremost on Hamas. The only mistake Israel has made is give in to pressure, especially from the U.S.
Because if anyone has contributed to this it’s the Biden administration. They threatened to withdraw support if Israel entered into Rafah- where these hostages were being held- and have been bullying Israel into pointless negotiations with terrorists instead of letting them do their thing. They even halted aid to bully Israel into not going into Rafah. If instead they gave the “unwavering support” they claimed to have, this probably wouldn’t have happened. Israel wasted precious time trying to appease Biden and Kamala.
Hope they learned their lesson.
Quorra2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:18 am Sadly not surprising. My heart just breaks for the families. Holding onto hope while the feelings of hopelessness have been growing…it’s not just the hostages who’ve suffered and been suffering.
This has been a total epic fail on Israel’s part and be extremely hard for them to recover from.