Another mass shooting at a Walmart in Virginia

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Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:59 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:58 pm That doesn’t mean the access isn’t still easy. It’s nice that it’s not as easy as it was before. It doesn’t mean it’s not easy now.
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:45 am Guns are not as easily accessible as they used to be. We have an angry nation and that anger primarily originates in DC.
What do you consider easy?

Editing to add my dad walked into a hardware in 1927 and paid 50cents and walked out with his first gun. He was 12.
Not having to pass a firearms course, have a license to possess a weapon or undergo a psych evaluation to have a license to possess handguns and semi automatic weapons makes it a whole lot easier to acquire a gun in America. It's harder to acquire a drivers license than it is to buy a gun.
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PoplarGrove wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:07 pm
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:59 pm
Momto2boys973 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:58 pm That doesn’t mean the access isn’t still easy. It’s nice that it’s not as easy as it was before. It doesn’t mean it’s not easy now.

What do you consider easy?

Editing to add my dad walked into a hardware in 1927 and paid 50cents and walked out with his first gun. He was 12.
Not having to pass a firearms course, have a license to possess a weapon or undergo a psych evaluation to have a license to possess handguns and semi automatic weapons makes it a whole lot easier to acquire a gun in America. It's harder to acquire a drivers license than it is to buy a gun.
Driving is a privilege. Owning a gun is a constitutional right.
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Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:05 pm
PoplarGrove wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:07 pm
Carpy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:59 pm

What do you consider easy?

Editing to add my dad walked into a hardware in 1927 and paid 50cents and walked out with his first gun. He was 12.
Not having to pass a firearms course, have a license to possess a weapon or undergo a psych evaluation to have a license to possess handguns and semi automatic weapons makes it a whole lot easier to acquire a gun in America. It's harder to acquire a drivers license than it is to buy a gun.
Driving is a privilege. Owning a gun is a constitutional right.
You asked what was considered easy. I told you.

The second amendment was created to give your citizens the right to a well regulated militia. I don't know about you but I thought Militias were groups that had trained people in them. People who have the temperament and ability to defend your country. If the founding fathers could see the destruction those few words have done to their country I think they would have been a whole hell of a lot more careful than they were when writing them.
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PoplarGrove wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:35 pm
Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:05 pm
PoplarGrove wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 12:07 pm

Not having to pass a firearms course, have a license to possess a weapon or undergo a psych evaluation to have a license to possess handguns and semi automatic weapons makes it a whole lot easier to acquire a gun in America. It's harder to acquire a drivers license than it is to buy a gun.
Driving is a privilege. Owning a gun is a constitutional right.
You asked what was considered easy. I told you.

The second amendment was created to give your citizens the right to a well regulated militia. I don't know about you but I thought Militias were groups that had trained people in them. People who have the temperament and ability to defend your country. If the founding fathers could see the destruction those few words have done to their country I think they would have been a whole hell of a lot more careful than they were when writing them.
Is it a federal offense to drive if you have a felony? A domestic violence conviction?
The second amendment wasn't written to be able to hunt.
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Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:41 pm
PoplarGrove wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:35 pm
Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:05 pm

Driving is a privilege. Owning a gun is a constitutional right.
You asked what was considered easy. I told you.

The second amendment was created to give your citizens the right to a well regulated militia. I don't know about you but I thought Militias were groups that had trained people in them. People who have the temperament and ability to defend your country. If the founding fathers could see the destruction those few words have done to their country I think they would have been a whole hell of a lot more careful than they were when writing them.
Is it a federal offense to drive if you have a felony? A domestic violence conviction?
The second amendment wasn't written to be able to hunt.
You base this on the theory of originalism. A theory not based in history.
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Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:10 pm
Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:41 pm
PoplarGrove wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:35 pm

You asked what was considered easy. I told you.

The second amendment was created to give your citizens the right to a well regulated militia. I don't know about you but I thought Militias were groups that had trained people in them. People who have the temperament and ability to defend your country. If the founding fathers could see the destruction those few words have done to their country I think they would have been a whole hell of a lot more careful than they were when writing them.
Is it a federal offense to drive if you have a felony? A domestic violence conviction?
The second amendment wasn't written to be able to hunt.
You base this on the theory of originalism. A theory not based in history.
Read the founders writings.
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Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:12 pm
Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:10 pm
Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:41 pm

Is it a federal offense to drive if you have a felony? A domestic violence conviction?
The second amendment wasn't written to be able to hunt.
You base this on the theory of originalism. A theory not based in history.
Read the founders writings.
You base this on nothing more than a theory supported by conservatives not history.😋

“The rights of persons that are commanded to be observed by the municipal law are of two sorts,” “First, such as are due from every citizen, which are usually called civic duties; and second, such as belong to him, which is the more popular acceptance of rights … reciprocally, the rights as well as the duties of each other.”

~ Sir William Blackstone, the eminence grise of Anglo-American legal scholarship.
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Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:18 am "CHESAPEAKE, Va. – Authorities investigating the fatal shootings of six people at a Walmart said that the shooter bought the gun just hours before and left a note with grievances against coworkers on his phone."
I know nothing about gun purchases.
Do states not have waiting periods for guns? Similar to how some states have the 24 hour waiting period to get an abortion.
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Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:22 pm
Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:12 pm
Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:10 pm

You base this on the theory of originalism. A theory not based in history.
Read the founders writings.
You base this on nothing more than a theory supported by conservatives not history.😋

“The rights of persons that are commanded to be observed by the municipal law are of two sorts,” “First, such as are due from every citizen, which are usually called civic duties; and second, such as belong to him, which is the more popular acceptance of rights … reciprocally, the rights as well as the duties of each other.”

~ Sir William Blackstone, the eminence grise of Anglo-American legal scholarship.
Like I said. Read the writings. Otherwise throw the whole bill of rights into the toilet and flush.
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Carpy wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:26 am
Thelma Harper wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:22 pm
Carpy wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:12 pm

Read the founders writings.
You base this on nothing more than a theory supported by conservatives not history.😋

“The rights of persons that are commanded to be observed by the municipal law are of two sorts,” “First, such as are due from every citizen, which are usually called civic duties; and second, such as belong to him, which is the more popular acceptance of rights … reciprocally, the rights as well as the duties of each other.”

~ Sir William Blackstone, the eminence grise of Anglo-American legal scholarship.
Like I said. Read the writings. Otherwise throw the whole bill of rights into the toilet and flush.
Which ones, specifically?
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