Just curious, do you feel it should have been paid at all?Frau Holle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:12 amLook, I am sorry but at this point restitutions should be over and European countries are starting to put their foot down.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:56 am https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/ ... st-claims/
There’s been over 70 Billion given by Germany alone and countless more billions from other countries.
If there are holocaust victims living in poverty, they need to ask where all that money went.
Religious nut Senator Tom Cotton claims slavery and holocaust were necessary
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I think evangelicals are just louder than the rest. Plus there are a lot of them in government. It's a good ole boy network. Think Tea Party.moviestar wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:15 am It’s true that 70% of Americans identify as Christian, but evangelicals actually only make up about a quarter of those.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:14 pm Is anything about what he said contrary to the belief of most of the country in between New York and LA?
Religious people believe that. Most of your country is religious in the evangelical way.
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Normal people, but when we look back at our history we see those who created Manifest Destiny. To me, the basics of it are still in the hearts and minds of some people.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:23 amFrau Holle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:09 amYes, they do. I can’t even think of historically relevant inhuman acts done on a large scale level that didn’t have to do with a religious reason that allowed people to think it was ok.SouthernIslander wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:43 pm
Oh nooooooo. Normal people don’t use religion to justify horrible and inhumane acts like slavery or the holocaust.
This dude sounds crazy.
I disagree. I grew up in a Bible Belt and I have never heard anyone say shit like that. Religious extremists maybe but not nearly enough to say most of our country.
Normal people don’t think like this.
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I do, but the time comes for everything to end. Museums have been built, homes have been rebuilt, scholarships have been given, memorial funds, statues, retirement funds, healthcare funds, and checks written.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:11 pmJust curious, do you feel it should have been paid at all?Frau Holle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:12 amLook, I am sorry but at this point restitutions should be over and European countries are starting to put their foot down.Thelma Harper wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:56 am https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/ ... st-claims/
There’s been over 70 Billion given by Germany alone and countless more billions from other countries.
If there are holocaust victims living in poverty, they need to ask where all that money went.
It’s been 75 years now, restitutions have been made.
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Huh?Frau Holle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:24 pmYes, But it's all the same thing.Carpy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:43 pmWhat I think you fail to understand is that the quest for power is the goal, religion in one for or another is just the weapon.SallyMae wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:48 pm Momto2boys973, thank you for discussing this with me because it's an important point.
I am not claiming that your beliefs are false. I am saying that they can't be proved. They could be wrong, at least in some of the details. There is no way to establish that they are 'righter' than the supernatural beliefs of others.
That doesn't mean we have no facts at all. Plenty of stuff can be proven and established. More than enough material, I would suggest, upon which to make geopolitical decisions about who lives and who dies.
How much more unresolvable conflict should we have for supernatural claims that *could* be wrong?
Does a country win a war, or do the weapons they use enable them to win ?
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Who the hell do you think you are to insult Christians or anyone's religious beliefs? You obviously know nothing about Christian beliefs. You are vile and nasty, and need to shut the hell up.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pmThe most reprehensible piece of this is Cotton believed it was a necessary evil to get the Jews back there for the sole purpose of the Christian's savior reappearing.Aletheia wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:12 pmIgnoring the issue of whether the creation of the state of Israel now (instead of, say, in 500 years time) is sufficiently important to justify committing the Holocaust, were that an EITHER / OR choice, and that even the Jews wouldn't agree it was a good trade...
he's wrong from a logical point of view. It would only count as "necessary" in order to achieve it if it could have been achieved in no other possible way. And there are many possible ways it could have been achieved by an omnipotent deity who has (on occasion, it is claimed) taken a direct hand in things, destroying whole cities and manipulating the thoughts of leaders (such as Egypt's Pharaoh).
Trump, who doesn't give a shit about anyone, put the embassy in Jerusalem for the sole purpose of pleasing and keeping his voters. The extreme religious views are that there will be a second coming of Christ and that everyone will perish except the chosen Christians and only the Jews who have converted to Christianity will be saved. Yeah, they love the Jews for keeping Israel safe while they wait for Jesus.
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She didn't insult all Christians. She specified the sub-set who are extremists.Mommamia wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 pmWho the hell do you think you are to insult Christians or anyone's religious beliefs? You obviously know nothing about Christian beliefs.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm The extreme religious views are that there will be a second coming of Christ and that everyone will perish except the chosen Christians and only the Jews who have converted to Christianity will be saved. Yeah, they love the Jews for keeping Israel safe while they wait for Jesus.
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Why then does he go around condemning various deals (eg the Iran nuclear deal) and rulings (eg some from America's supreme court), if it were necessary for those things to happen? You might as well condemn an apple for falling off a tree due to gravity.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:27 pmHe is of the faith that everything happens for a reason and God set into motion those reasons.Aletheia wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:12 pmIgnoring the issue of whether the creation of the state of Israel now (instead of, say, in 500 years time) is sufficiently important to justify committing the Holocaust, were that an EITHER / OR choice, and that even the Jews wouldn't agree it was a good trade...
he's wrong from a logical point of view. It would only count as "necessary" in order to achieve it if it could have been achieved in no other possible way. And there are many possible ways it could have been achieved by an omnipotent deity who has (on occasion, it is claimed) taken a direct hand in things, destroying whole cities and manipulating the thoughts of leaders (such as Egypt's Pharaoh).
So everything in all of history that has ever happened until now has been necessary.
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Her trashy posts aren’t even worth responding to but I give you credit for trying.Aletheia wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:42 pmShe didn't insult all Christians. She specified the sub-set who are extremists.Mommamia wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:17 pmWho the hell do you think you are to insult Christians or anyone's religious beliefs? You obviously know nothing about Christian beliefs.Lemons wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:59 pm The extreme religious views are that there will be a second coming of Christ and that everyone will perish except the chosen Christians and only the Jews who have converted to Christianity will be saved. Yeah, they love the Jews for keeping Israel safe while they wait for Jesus.
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That’s where the hypocrisies come in.Aletheia wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:47 pmWhy then does he go around condemning various deals (eg the Iran nuclear deal) and rulings (eg some from America's supreme court), if it were necessary for those things to happen? You might as well condemn an apple for falling off a tree due to gravity.Frau Holle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:27 pmHe is of the faith that everything happens for a reason and God set into motion those reasons.Aletheia wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:12 pm
Ignoring the issue of whether the creation of the state of Israel now (instead of, say, in 500 years time) is sufficiently important to justify committing the Holocaust, were that an EITHER / OR choice, and that even the Jews wouldn't agree it was a good trade...
he's wrong from a logical point of view. It would only count as "necessary" in order to achieve it if it could have been achieved in no other possible way. And there are many possible ways it could have been achieved by an omnipotent deity who has (on occasion, it is claimed) taken a direct hand in things, destroying whole cities and manipulating the thoughts of leaders (such as Egypt's Pharaoh).
So everything in all of history that has ever happened until now has been necessary.